Can we talk about Carni's for a moment?

[Jason Hyatt]

Hey all. This move here is a move i have good success with against a lot of people. And good people at that yo. But i want ask yall's advice real quick. Okay im in rubber guard i go to New York, clear the head to chill dog, NOW wait just a sec. Im in chill dog okay. Iv noticed a lot of people can defend the gogo plata if they are good , and going to jiu claw is pointless to me. Why? most people roll out of the omaplata (yeah i know i can get the sweep to twister side but i want a sub!). Soooooooooooooo do you think it is applicable if I just let dude pass my off leg so i can hook is leg and get a carni. He can't roll on a carni. thats why i like it. So what do you think? I have been doing this and tearing it up. Thoughts?

Rolled out of two of them last night. The trick I figured out is that when I roll, they're usually able to keep the foot hooked on my leg which means I'd just end up right back where I was. My solution (and I concede there may be better...) if they have my right arm in the Carni and my left leg is hooked is this: I roll, swing my left leg as wide as I can and use my left hand to stuff their ankle hard. This unhooks my leg, I swing it in an arc, and I continue the roll. I end up rolling up into side control. I can't call it a high-percentage escape but I've had to work a little on my Carni counters because dudes have gotten hip to the Ginger Snap. I got into a bad habit when I'd get tired inside someone's guard of just letting guys go all the way to jiu claw just so I could roll out and catch the Ginger Snap. I was hitting it a lot and now guys won't try to go to jiu claw on me nearly as much. The Carni seems to have made a resurgence so I've been looking for ways to get tricky with my defense.

[bobby rivers]

The roll'n omo and swim'n carni rebooted my game a shit ton. If I even think they're gonna defend or roll i roll or swim first. Its like a race. Gotta get faster by gettin smoother.

Before this, weight class was a game breaker on carni's. Ive had a dude roll through my butterfly hook, which took my face through the ground, and the swim to sit up solved this.

[Bryan Burke]

What happens if your in chill dog and you go for the carni, but then they actually pass your leg to the other side of their body?

[bobby rivers]

Then they have passed to side control or a knee across guard.

[AJ Camacho]

Then they have passed to side control or a knee across guard.

DUN DUN DUN!!!!

It's a race.

That's what's so weird about all the tozi pass videos on the net. They sell the tozi pass like it's a solution when it's really just an entry ticket into the race. I agree with Bobby, don't wait for the pass, force the rolling omo and dictate where the match is going. Make them react.

[Bryan Burke]

Then they have passed to side control or a knee across guard.

Im kinda new to this, so what do you mean by knee across guard?

Also should i just abandon mission control once they have passed that leg to the outside and are in side controll because i can still hold mission control. Just dont know if there is any moves i dont know about or if its just better to abandon and work other options. I have only been doing jj for 8months and eddie's system for maybe 2months, probably closer to 1 month honestly. Also i roll gi since the gym i roll at is strict when it comes to that. Thanks for all the help!!!

[bobby rivers]

If you still have your shin in contact with their torso you can try to get full guard back, but yeah, if both your legs are on one side of his body you are no longer in mission control so go ahead and let go of your leg and get a guard back.

[Bryan Burke]

i gotcha

[Aab]

i gotcha

hey sometimes i have pull a crack head control on the bottom while a guy side controls me. its just to stall though and catch my breathe. nothing more. gota work on some hard ass shrimping and hooking the leg to get back to half guard to lockdown and getting that under hook. thats all hard work especially against good guys. my weak ass body gives out on me alot. but dont worry im still learning myself. we will all eat grits with cheese and sugar added one day.

[bobby rivers]

The way I see it the south is divided in two halves. Those who put sugar in their grits and descent people. No clue you were one of them kick.

How do you crackhead in side?