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    Our faith isn't about social ends. I find that it is rather contrary to social ends, that's why you find people like me repeatedly committing social suicide by answering questions instead of shutting up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by derrick ikwueme View Post
    Really !!!!! If " Something was powerfull enough to create the universe and all life in it " do you really think this energy not a " Man" with kids. would be concerned with "Petty" earth problems. Remember, religious people also used to think the Earth was "Flat" and would "burn you at the stake" for suggesting other wise.
    Are you not concerned with your creations? If I created all, I would be concerned with all because I would be love incarnate.

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    To many people want to beleive in a after life because they do nothing in their mortal life. I think the point is just to live and like Eddie has said project positivity and creativity into the world. I also agree with chuck its all about family. The native americans had it right with the tribes but thats always been my oppinion. religion is but a means of control! lets just be good friendly people and all will be well on the 10th planet.

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    Sidebar: on the subject of Christians not knowing their own theology: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/09/28...est=latestnews

    @Jon: he is concerned with his own creations. He is also holy. If you look at your own life, you'll find many, many areas where you have to make decisions between competing priorities. God appears to be similar. You are asking the right questions, but you can't stop at questions, you have to dig up some answers.

    I feel like I'm crossing a line here, I think I'm going to let this thread alone unless people have questions or arguments that are specifically directed at me.
    Last edited by Joshua Jarboe; 09-28-2010 at 11:53 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jon Watkins View Post
    Are you not concerned with your creations? If I created all, I would be concerned with all because I would be love incarnate.
    Just the Idea that you refer to the energy of the universe as "HE" or "His" as if this energy has a "Physical Body" and a " Gender " and a " Ego " Reduces something this powerful down to a "Very Petty" level. The problem with modern religion is that it's drilled into you as a kid and your told not to ask question's. " I grew up in church I know " and this forces you to build a very strong set of " Mental Brick Walls " that cause you to "Get Angry" & " Defensive " and to run away from
    Logic because your " Belief Systems " are being challenged. Just the fact that you posted this thread shows your still very "insecure" about "life" "religion" and the fear of "Not knowing"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joshua Jarboe View Post
    Yeah derrick...I don't know how to break it to you, but virtually all elements of reality exist and have properties that are completely independent of your opinion of what they should be. God is no exception.
    Project that into a mirror and take your own advice

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    I'm not making this up man. I'm not sitting around going "what's God like? Well, if God is anything like me, he's sneaking up on people and freaking them out with ninja skills and then disappearing mysteriously. Because that's totally what I would do. Then he'd give everyone pizza and we'd all sit down and watch UFC." I mean, if I was God, there wouldn't be a hell.

    Trouble is, we know some of what God is like because he told us. That has nothing to do with my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joshua Jarboe View Post
    Sidebar: on the subject of Christians not knowing their own theology: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/09/28...est=latestnews

    @Jon: he is concerned with his own creations. He is also holy. If you look at your own life, you'll find many, many areas where you have to make decisions between competing priorities. God appears to be similar. You are asking the right questions, but you can't stop at questions, you have to dig up some answers.

    I feel like I'm crossing a line here, I think I'm going to let this thread alone unless people have questions or arguments that are specifically directed at me.

    Thanks, haha. I was just about to come back in and post a link to that study. Nice to see what I've always thought on that subject get validated. Obviously atheists are the most knowledgeable of religions, that's why we don't believe it.

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    Not so. I just think a lot of people in a given religion know too little about their own religion and FAR too little about everybody else's. Nice try at the parting shot though.

    Moreover, I'm willing to bet that most evolutionary atheists know jack about evolution.

    People don't care. There's no dialog, why would you need to know this stuff?
    Last edited by Joshua Jarboe; 09-28-2010 at 03:01 PM. Reason: clarity

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joshua Jarboe View Post
    I'm not making this up man. I'm not sitting around going "what's God like? Well, if God is anything like me, he's sneaking up on people and freaking them out with ninja skills and then disappearing mysteriously. Because that's totally what I would do. Then he'd give everyone pizza and we'd all sit down and watch UFC." I mean, if I was God, there wouldn't be a hell.

    Trouble is, we know some of what God is like because he told us. That has nothing to do with my opinion.
    Just like I said " Zero Logic ", just " Blind Faith " when talking to religious people. Why are religious people so desperate to "Follow Others" and in such desperate need of a " leader " and it's usually just the " Blind Leading The Blind " enough said.

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