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    Went to sleep for the first time today.

    I started BJJ in Feb 2009 and went out for the first time today. It scared me a little honestly. Baseball choke in the GI and it seemed to happen really fast. I remember trying to sit up afterwards and couldn't. Couldn't speak either. Also felt myself jerking a little bit. Similar experience anyone?

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    The first and only time I went out I was a whitebelt.

    I remember everything went black and then when I came to I knew I had been out but I just grabbed the guy and spun for an armbar. Apparently he still had the lapel gripped and just choked me out again really quick because I didnt fully catch my breath. then I woke up the 2nd time and I was in his armbar.

    Hasnt happened since then.

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    You never know your limit until you go too far!!! Should happen to everyone at least once, I figure. But only do it with partners you really trust to let go fast. Good Job Will, you must be training hard.

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    I've almost went out once or twice fighting triangles. I'm not a fan of going to sleep, it scares me. One of our blues either darced me or neck tied me and when I went to tap I was tapping air, I couldn't find his body and from the choke i couldn't speak it. I should of tapped with my feet but just didn't think. Anyway I finally tapped him and he said I wondered why u didn't tap I knew it was in right and had to hurt. Now what if I went out and he didn't notice and kept squeezing? How many people even experienced people would catch their opponent went to sleep?

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    Haha welcome to the club!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeremy Gates View Post
    I've almost went out once or twice fighting triangles. I'm not a fan of going to sleep, it scares me. One of our blues either darced me or neck tied me and when I went to tap I was tapping air, I couldn't find his body and from the choke i couldn't speak it. I should of tapped with my feet but just didn't think. Anyway I finally tapped him and he said I wondered why u didn't tap I knew it was in right and had to hurt. Now what if I went out and he didn't notice and kept squeezing? How many people even experienced people would catch their opponent went to sleep?
    Two things can happen:

    1) your body keeps fighting even after u go out but it becomes just violent twitching motion
    2) you go completely limp

    Thats how you know when they go out.

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    I know what happens but I'm saying if your darcing someone and they go limp u may not be able to tell. Atleast with a triangle you're looking at them and can visually tell. I'm saying how many people would actually notice the other person going limp and whatnot especially the inexperienced

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    During one of Denny's seminars, (we were working on the 10 Finger Guillotine), I briefly put my partner to sleep while performing a guard/side-mount/mount 10FG combo...and I'll admit, that I didn't really notice at what point he went out, but I remember he felt a bit softer than normal once I got in top position with that choke. Since I didn't get a tap, I just let go to check, and sure enough...he had gone out. He got right up afterward though, and eventually said something like, "I think I was out..." :P

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    Can't say enough about quality training partners on this subject. Partners that have your well being in mind, over their ego/personal agenda. If a noob slaps on a guillotine because it is easy, and you were just playin' just to see and he just cranks, that is not the time to push it and try to escape from deep water,just tap early. If a well seasoned training partner/ high belt level puts you in one, that is the time to work the proper escape technique well into deep water.

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    I'm lucky to have a group of really friendly and supportive, ego-less guys to train with. That combined with the fact that I tap as soon as I feel something lock up rather than fight it to the point of feeling myself start to go out works well. I was told by one of my training partners when I first started, tap early tap often, and I do!

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