3 SUBMISSIONS & a Back Take from BOTTOM Side Control

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  1. RJ Encizo said:

    3 SUBMISSIONS & a Back Take from BOTTOM Side Control

    http://youtu.be/M1Mm5d-Nyvc

    This is my go to path out from under side control. You may think it's low percentage, but its not, and works very well against higher level players (moving fluently from elbow propping up the chest, to knee in, to submission, will keep you a 2 steps ahead of his knee on belly or mount counter). This is also a great transition into pyramid, williams, z, rubber, etc guards if you perfer re-guarding over submission attempts.

    Key points:
    To get elbow into the chest plate, use a body rotation of a strong cross face from your forearm while doing a hard pull down on his arm controlling bicep. With a bit of bridge/shrimp, it should tuck the sharp of your elbow into his diaphragm, leaving him weightless on top, and you hips completely free and mobile.

    Arm bars: the knee you shrimp in should be as high as possible on his ribs, so that your shin is in his armpit, and your foot is trapping his rear shoulder. This will allow you to keep very tight knees on the finish. This will also allow you to keep him high enough off of your chest when going for the arm crush, creating enough space for an effective finish.

    Inverted triangle: I find it nearly impossible to finish if I am NOT controlling the trapped arm, and pulling towards me. Keeping his hips away from me is also a Priority.

    I hope you enjoy.

    Either way, please let me know if you like it, hate it, think I'm annoying, or want to know why that horrible music was playing in the background.

    Thanks.
     
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    Brent Smith said:
    I'm not going to hate cause guys like Telles have turned a position of disadvantage into a position of advantage. Personally I wouldn't go for these but I can see them working on some people.
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  3. RJ Encizo said:
    Quote Originally Posted by Brent Smith View Post
    I'm not going to hate cause guys like Telles have turned a position of disadvantage into a position of advantage. Personally I wouldn't go for these but I can see them working on some people.
    Thanks for watching. I definitely understand why it seems silly. Try them out with the elbow-to-chest prop. It's shockingly effective, to the point were I consider being side controlled as just a form of perpendicular guard (without gravity, you are essentially in a neutral position. lots of entries to tri, omo, kim, or darce, or even try playing deep half on the top players arms). I used to get made fun of about this, but have gotten very good with it. If I get the chest lifted on my elbow, the vast majority of the time I either get the sub, or if they defend, they give more than enough space transition to a william's guard/pyramid hybrid I use (or any other guard).
    Last edited by RJ Encizo; 06-02-2013 at 08:11 AM.
     
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    sean applegate said:
    Nothing silly about framing

    To be honest, I actually look for that arm bar a lot. If a guy is a little to loose in his transition or if I can time a shrimp ill go for it. The elbow in is an interesting detail.

    Definitely looks worth some drilling though. Thanks for the post.
     
  5. RJ Encizo said:
    Thanks, I really appreciate it. For me, the elbow detail changed the armbar from a hail mary attempt to a high percentage trap
     
  6. bobby rivers said:
    I would use the space created to jailbreak or underhook. I used this a lot and eventually the controlling of the arm is just a telegraph. All he has to do is switch his hips one way or another and you just isolated your arm for him. Most guys with good sides are constantly switching hips and control.

    Good option, but if it's your go to, meaning your partners get caught over and over. They need to up their top side game. How does this stop knee on belly?
     
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    Eddie Bravo said:
    Interesting job your right arm has, I'm gonna mess with it, thank you for sharing
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  8. RJ Encizo said:
    Quote Originally Posted by bobby rivers View Post
    I would use the space created to jailbreak or underhook. I used this a lot and eventually the controlling of the arm is just a telegraph. All he has to do is switch his hips one way or another and you just isolated your arm for him. Most guys with good sides are constantly switching hips and control.

    Good option, but if it's your go to, meaning your partners get caught over and over. They need to up their top side game. How does this stop knee on belly?
    Hip switching is only an issue WITHOUT the elbow prop of the chest. It causes them to roll off of the elbow to a position which is advantageous to you. Switching their hip, so they are facing you, is very difficult for them due to your wedged grip on their bicep. It is VERY tight. But, even if they manage to switch that way, they fall low enough to your hips to make the sit up sweep/escape rather simple. Your hand is already in position on the triceps. Hip switch into a twister side control will roll them off your elbow onto your face. A simple bridge will clear them, and provide the option to either roll to the top, or come out the back. THE ELBOW PROP IS ESSENTIAL.

    As far as stopping knee on belly, your hips are completely mobile with the elbow prop, and you should already have your knee in attacking or re-guarding. Your knee rising is a much shorter path than him popping up to knee on belly.

    Thank you for watching and commenting. Give the elbow prop a try. It provides a huge mechanical advantage. People get caught repeatedly bc its a nice little check mate when done properly.

    For the record, I would never share a white or blue belt killer technique. If I cant hit it on a purple or higher, then I file it away with subs like tapping someone with a body triangle.
     
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    sean applegate said:
    Quote Originally Posted by fattywarbucks View Post
    Thanks, I really appreciate it. For me, the elbow detail changed the armbar from a hail mary attempt to a high percentage trap
    Played a little today. Love the elbow detail for the arm bar.
     
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    Louis Ho said:
    I remember watching Sakuraba roll and he was pretty good at getting the arm from the bottom side control. Thanks for the video, Fatty.
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