Ryan Hall Teaching The Twister Roll

[VJ Bella]

There's some valid points here. As Andrew pointed out, Ryan has been the most active American competitor over the last few years, I mean the guy had almost 200 wins by Triangle alone before he was a brown belt. He's had success at the ADCC West Coast Trials, subbing every opponent, as well as getting Bronze in the ADCC itself. He's also had pretty good success at the Worlds, with good matches against Rafael Mendes, etc. I'd say the man has earned the right to slow down and start being a little more picky about when and where he competes. He's one of the few players that's had zero slow down in competition when his belt color's changed. He won at blue, purple, brown, and didn't even slow down at black. I bet he's incurred a lot of injuries too, and he even mentions some bad injuries on his new DVD sets. He also has a full time gym to operate. If he only does a few fights a year from now on, he has earned the right to do so arguably more than any other American player. Also, I think I mentioned it before, but someone said Ryan never won the No-Gi Worlds, and I'll mention again that he did in 2007. With every match ending in submission except for maybe the final match, I don't remember. He at least had a triangle, Darce, and RNC that I remember.

All good points...I think its more about the reason he gave for not giving denny a match...if he didnt wanna do the fight because he was injured or even needed to slow down (he has to run his won school as well) I would understand...but saying someone else is not in your league so you wont fight them says something else to me...

[Scott Yockel]

All good points...I think its more about the reason he gave for not giving denny a match...if he didnt wanna do the fight because he was injured or even needed to slow down (he has to run his won school as well) I would understand...but saying someone else is not in your league so you wont fight them says something else to me...

hit it on the head with this one.

[Jon Watkins]

My thoughts on the issue...when you start picking and choosing who to fight and refusing to fight certain jj players...you open yourself up to this kind of talk. I would think that it would be much more beneficial to his reputation if he took the fight and completely dominated Denny (as he believes) adding on to his highlight reel, than it would be going to class and teaching that night or what have you. The more likely scenario is that ryan probably realized that the risk of losing to denny (who trains in an unorthodox style that he is not completely familiar with) outweighed the reward of beating him. I've always been of the school to take on all comers...settle it on the mat and leave no doubt who the better grappler is. It wasn't that long ago that nobody knew who Ryan Hall was either...but he proved himself against some of the better names and thus became a household name...but you have to be given that opportunity to be able to do that

Look man. I love Denny and I don't even know the dude personally, but if 10th Planet was really gung ho about facing off with Ryan Hall. I'm pretty sure they can stalk him at ADCC or any of the other tournaments the guy enters and get a match up. Why does it have to be a superfight? A win is still a win. And a loss is still a loss. Or is this a stamina issue? I know from experience that clinching a dude and forcing Rubber Guard can wear you out right quick, (especially if you've been smokin' some sweet sticky kush) but I bet Denny could hang whether he's forcing shit or not. What I am getting a little sick of is people talking all this smack about how one guy's technique is better. (And I do prefer fishnet for the record) Or one guy turned down a superfight this. And bullshit that. None of us speak for these talented individuals. And it seems like too many people are taking this shit a little too serious for all the wrong reasons. Myself included. And I would like to apologize if I've offended anyone. But then again, this is just forum bickering. And most people might not remember this in a week.

[Mike Nall]

All good points...I think its more about the reason he gave for not giving denny a match...if he didnt wanna do the fight because he was injured or even needed to slow down (he has to run his won school as well) I would understand...but saying someone else is not in your league so you wont fight them says something else to me...

I don't disagree, and although I would like a source, I would not want to call anyone on either side of this a liar. Eddie saying that it happened is probably the closest anyone can expect shy of a recorded conversation, LOL.

When the dust settles, I think this match will eventually happen, whether a Superfight does happen or whether they meet in ADCC or some other no-gi tournament. Denny is very good, and good grapplers eventually face each other.

[Mike Nall]

And most people might not remember this in a week.

This...

[Andrew Peters]

Jon, I wasn't referring to your instructor, I was referring to Ryan Hall. To say that he won't fight Denny to prevent injury before the major tournaments or because he doesn't feel that Denny has a big enough name is weak.

Jason, you were the 1st person in this thread to accuse Ryan of making this statment and eddie backed you up. Multiple people have now asked that you or Eddie source this statment by Ryan - please do it.

[Mike Nall]

Jason, you were the 1st person in this thread to accuse Ryan of making this statment and eddie backed you up. Multiple people have now asked that you or Eddie source this statment by Ryan - please do it.

I think you've got your only source buddy.

[Jason Mallory]

Jason, you were the 1st person in this thread to accuse Ryan of making this statment and eddie backed you up. Multiple people have now asked that you or Eddie source this statment by Ryan - please do it.

There was another thread on this forum where someone said that Ryan turned down the superfight, I was repeating what was said here. Eddie and I exchanged emails since this thread started and he told me directly who was invlolved in trying to set the match up. My source is Eddie.

[Andrew Peters]

There was another thread on this forum where someone said that Ryan turned down the superfight, I was repeating what was said here. Eddie and I exchanged emails since this thread started and he told me directly who was invlolved in trying to set the match up. My source is Eddie.

In other words you both are willing to attack and disparage Ryan's reputation in a public forum, but unwilling to give up the name the person so it can be validated and make sure what was said and in what context it was said. End of thread.

[Jason Mallory]

In other words you both are willing to attack and disparage Ryan's reputation in a public forum, but unwilling to give up the name the person so it can be validated and make sure what was said and in what context it was said. End of thread.

This is what was said on the other thread:

http://www.10thplanetjj.com/threads/...ight=ryan+hall

I have no reason to believe that Eddie is lying when he says Ryan turned down the superfight. End of thread.