Twister mutha fucking Twister !! i jumped out of my seat, grabbed my copy of Mastering the Twister, and said " thats what the fuck i'm talking about " Chan sung Jung, the 10th planet nation salutes you ! I bet Eddie went fucking crazy in the broadcast truck.
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Guys, this technique has nothing to do with anyones jiu jitsu system, its a western wrestling technique. Props for 10th planet in allowing a system that embraces techniques from all over the world, but at the end of the day its still a wrestlers guillotine. Eddie repeatedly gives props to it in every demonstration I've ever seen, and is IMO a pioneer of the sport of no gi jj / submission wrestling!!
http://tinyurl.com/wrestlersguillotineLast edited by Bruce.Porcelli; 03-28-2011 at 07:35 AM.
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Right, except for the fact that it was set up from back control, he figure fours his legs, and connects his hands while not giving a shit about pinning or gettin pinned. Def inspired by it though, but he tweeked and evolved tha fuck out of it.
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In wrestling its set up from the back control as well.. and sometimes people figure four their legs and other times they just use one extended leg.. you also wrap your hands around their head and crank like a mother just the same(except you're cranking so both shoulders meet the mat). Its the same exact move.. hurts like a bitch(I've seen refs give the pin to something that is questionable just to save the other from injury)
Originally Posted by bobby rivers
Eddie has given props to the move plenty.. and has introduced other entries.. and other options etc.. which are awesome. But what you just described is identical to the wrestling version. Now if you introduced it as entering from twister side etc.. that entrance would never happen in wrestling lol.
As far as what Bruce said.. i'm sure 95% of the forum know what inspired the twister.. no worries on that front. wrestling gets credit.. lol..
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read my sig! But seriously....the gracies are about making money and marketing gracie combatives as the REAL jiu jitsu..the pure uncut jiu jitsu. It really is about all that. Now, of course when they are interviewed they come up with flimsy reasons...I think Royce had a problem with the names that eddie gave the moves. He said there were no names for the moves...now some guys are going around giving the moves names like they invented them.
From what I understand, eddie gave the moves names so they could remember them. I find myself educating gracie students all the time. Eddie is a Machado gi blackbelt that developed a no-gi jiu jitsu system that takes adavantage of his flexibility.
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hey...for those that recognized the twister is an old wrestling move....how old are you guys? I mean I wrestled in high school in the 80s when you could still neck crank. Isn't all that stuff banned now? We used get guys out before they could even submit and some refs didn't even know we were doing it.
My coach wrestled for 6 years so he incorporates it into the jiu jitsu..because those neck cranks make your game...EVIL!
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It was still game 6 years ago in Texas.. not sure about now. Originally Posted by James Davis
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Where's Mr.Bravo on his reaction? I wanna hear (read) what Eddie thinks and just how bat shit crazy he went when he saw
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