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    electric chair problem

    Hello!

    Often when I use the lockdown and trying to throw my oponent over to get the electric chair, I get submitted by americana. Whats the mistake?

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    WIthout actually seeing you making the mistake, I'm just going to assume. I'm sure others can help better. I've been having some success with the electric chair and the more I practice it, the more I have to trouble shoot.

    My guess? You're not deep enough. For the set up when you whip up, get to your side. One arm behind hugging the far hip, one arm under the thigh, head tucked deep either on the stomach or preferrably on the thigh being underhooked. When you fail old school (they post their leg) and you angry rainbow your arm that's behind him should "heisman" stiff arm him far away from you then get up to your elbow. There's no way he should americana you from there.

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    Give some more info and we'll help you out, trying to picture it and I can't see how that's happening. I love electric chair, use it all the time and have never seen anyone get an americana put on them while trying to do it. Explain how it's happening and then we can figure out the details your missing

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    I'm guessing hes not whipping up properly and not clearing the other guys arms whip up deep enough to get on your hip and have your head buried hook that leg and roll

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    I'm not really sure at what point he's getting the americana but you should be staying really tight to your opponent's leg when you're going for the angry rainbow (tossing him over to complete the EC sweep). If you keep your head tucked and your arms squeezed tight then he shouldn't have any room to slip in an americana. Against most 10th planet guys if you don't stay tight you're going to get cross-faced at the very least, every time. Get those reps in and focus on staying tucked, it's something I've had to work on a lot myself.

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    Thank you guys!
    I think I got it:
    Most of my sparring partners a heavier an stronger than me
    I let them take pressure on my chest while I am concentrating on the lockdown and then they grab an arm

    I guess this would help me out:

    I'm guessing hes not whipping up properly and not clearing the other guys arms whip up deep enough to get on your hip and have your head buried hook that leg and roll
    you keep your head tucked and your arms squeezed tight then he shouldn't have any room to slip in an americana

    thanks a lot
    greets from Austria

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    Use the Fat Whip. I Never go to electric chair without the fat whip and angry rainbow. The Second I get the lock down and dble unders im hookin his leg and going straight to the fat whip. Works for me I roll with nothing but big guys. So I hope this helps. Master Zog has a video on how to use it if you havent seen it already.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trez Reyna View Post
    Use the Fat Whip. I Never go to electric chair without the fat whip and angry rainbow. The Second I get the lock down and dble unders im hookin his leg and going straight to the fat whip. Works for me I roll with nothing but big guys. So I hope this helps. Master Zog has a video on how to use it if you havent seen it already.

    ^ Can I get an Amen! Come on brothas n sistas throw your hands high, get the spirit, and uh the fat whip! Take pride in that uh angry rainbow! Feel the rythem, feel the rhyme, get on up....It's tenth planet time! :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trez Reyna View Post
    Use the Fat Whip. I Never go to electric chair without the fat whip and angry rainbow. The Second I get the lock down and dble unders im hookin his leg and going straight to the fat whip. Works for me I roll with nothing but big guys. So I hope this helps. Master Zog has a video on how to use it if you havent seen it already.

    ^ Can I get an Amen! Come on brothas n sistas throw your hands high, get the spirit, and uh the fat whip! Take pride in that uh angry rainbow! Feel the rythem, feel the rhyme, get on up....It's tenth planet time! :-)

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    I'm intrigued by this Fat Whip that I've never heard of... anyone have a link to a video?

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