Cesar's Diaz vs Estima statement

[Jonathan Wylie]

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2012/5/14...show-mma-media

This sheds light on the Ronda Rousey confusion and mentions Eddie. The whole thing is a fuckin mess.

[derrick ikwueme]

mma & jiujitsu fans are so flaky "no loyalty " & no one owes them anything like ceasar said ! but people love to cry about shit. even when they don't know the facts

[Slick Rick]

If my points have already been mentioned, I'm sorry.
1) Cesar Gracie and the Gracie Fighters are legit guys and won't back down from anything.
2) I like Braulio a lot, so it's hard to think negativity towards him, but, why not accept a challenge from fellow Robert Drysdale. For charity, it would have been cool. This was not a profight that would ruin an mma career.
3) Props to Nick for still paying to the charity.
4) Cesar acknowledges that the ibjjf is taking advantage of americans in ibjjf tournaments. Coming from a Brazilian, that's pretty deep.

[Brent Smith]

2) I like Braulio a lot, so it's hard to think negativity towards him, but, why not accept a challenge from fellow Robert Drysdale. For charity, it would have been cool. This was not a profight that would ruin an mma career.

I was wondering this as well. I know he was specifically training for Diaz but in most tournies you dont know who youre going against anyways so why would a opponent change matter anyways?

[Nick Powers]

I was wondering this as well. I know he was specifically training for Diaz but in most tournies you dont know who youre going against anyways so why would a opponent change matter anyways?

I read somewhere on Twitter not long after the event ended that Drysdale didn't offer to step in. He was coming over there to translate in some capacity, whether to the crowd or other people. Either way, he never offered to fight Braulio.

[Mitchell C]

Let's assume he did challenge him, he has no obligation to fight him, he got his money for just showing up, so the % went charity already more than likely.
If Nick wouldn't even show up, even though Edtima made weight, then why should Estima fight a guy who is clearly even further up in weight than that?


It just seems sketchy to me that Cesar would be telling people how he told Nick that Estima didn't make weight, and then he disappears without a trace.
But then only later add "the promoters were shady and that's why the fight wasn't taken"

The only saving grace is that Nick payed the charity.

mma & jiujitsu fans are so flaky "no loyalty " & no one owes them anything like ceasar said ! but people love to cry about shit. even when they don't know the facts

Eh, it's more often the case that mma fans back up their favorite fighters no matter what.
I saw people calling Estima a bum and a cheater 5 minutes after the fight was called off, and people quoting the lies that Layzie guy was spreading around, even now after he apologized.

It gets to the point where an mma fighter could bitch slap a baby while snorting coke of a hookers ass in the middle of a target, and their fans would still adore them.


Don't get me wrong, even after this shit, as a fighter I still like Nick.
But I don't believe I ever liked him as a person.