intro and belt question

[Chris Herzog]

Gary thank you for bringing this to our attention, the integrity of the 10th Planet system is important to us!

[TheGut]

Gary is one of the main anti-10th planet guys here in South Africa. He is continuously talking bad about the style...just a thought.

[Chris Herzog]

Gary is entitled to his opinion, and it doesn't effect the integrity of the 10th Planet System. What the real issue entails is clearly Hanno has misrepresented himself to Eddie (regarding his BJJ credentials) and to his students and the public as a 10th Planet instructor, affiliation (in the process) and as a 10PJJ Brown Belt (pending). When clearly this is NOT the case, there was no "misunderstanding". Just a thought.

[Brandon Mccaghren]

Gary is one of the main anti-10th planet guys here in South Africa. He is continuously talking bad about the style...just a thought.

Perhaps part of his "anti-10th Planet" opinion is based on the fact that he has a POSER next door to him claiming the 10thP system. I don't blame him. If that was my experience with the 10thP I would hate it, too. Dude is basically stealing money off his table.

[Ryan_B]

Brandon for the win!

[TheGut]

Perhaps part of his "anti-10th Planet" opinion is based on the fact that he has a POSER next door to him claiming the 10thP system. I don't blame him. If that was my experience with the 10thP I would hate it, too. Dude is basically stealing money off his table.

Hanno makes no money from it and the little that does come in from the school goes straight back into the school. The opinion of the 10th planet system has nothing to do with Hanno, but more that 10th planet is not proper jiu jitsu (according to them). I still stand that Hanno has done nothing but good for 10th planet in South Africa. He didnt "fake" anything and its not like he used 10th planet to make money, because he didnt. The thing is just all the facts are not collected and you guys are all the way in the states and cant really talk person to person to exactly find out what is going on. Im not saying anyone is right or wrong. I understand both peoples opinions, but its based on a miscommunication that happened and nothing more.

[Chris Urbanski]

Is Cape Town where District 9 was filmed? LOL

[TheGut]

Is Cape Town where District 9 was filmed? LOL

Yip. You guys must come visit or come give a seminar. Its a amazing city.

[Chris Urbanski]

Gary is entitled to his opinion, and it doesn't effect the integrity of the 10th Planet System. What the real issue entails is clearly Hanno has misrepresented himself to Eddie (regarding his BJJ credentials) and to his students and the public as a 10th Planet instructor, affiliation (in the process) and as a 10PJJ Brown Belt (pending). When clearly this is NOT the case, there was no "misunderstanding". Just a thought.

100% agree. I would rather know my enemy than have someone faking their way into the family. If this were the Sopranos this shit would end real quick!

There is a mutual respect with other Families as they typically have the same respect and have worked for it. Don't try to come to my family and try to get "Made" unless you pay your dues.

[Chris Herzog]

In case you missed this on the other thread:

Are you aware that Hanno told Eddie and Alder he was a BJJ Black Belt?? And Eddie asked him 3x if this was the case, and all 3 times he made it clear to Eddie he was a BJJ Black Belt. When Eddie found the truth (that Hanno was indeed NOT a BJJ Black Belt, and had no rank in BJJ at all) he sent this message to Alder in case anyone asked about him.

"Hanno Vermeulen is not affiliated with 10th Planet Jiu Jitsu. Hanno Vermeulen is not a 10th Planet Brown Belt and has never been ranked in the 10th Planet System. In 2009, Hanno Vermeulen inquired about affiliation, but was denied for specific reasons I wont make public at this time."

Every since Hanno was "denied" he kept flying the 10th Planet Flag on his website (up until yesterday), and implied his Brown Belt was "pending" (which is the rank BJJ Black Belts come into the system until they learn it) when it was indeed NOT pending, is was denied.


You can continue to defend your teacher, or you can internalize all this info and realize that he is actually a fraud who has conned, and burned you. It happens to a lot of good and intelligent people and is hard to accept, it happened to me early in my martial arts journey. You're the one who has to look in the mirror every morning and ask yourself, "am I being honest with myself", and then live with the decision.