Boxing Commission SUX A$$ ! ! ! ! !

[Justin Credible]

So as of November 1st all ammy's in the state of Indiana are required 2 have an ammy unarmed combat license (I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT WHATSOEVER) but for thoe boxing commission to come in and change the rules and completley rob us of the total MMA experience is wrong in my own opinion . . .

They say that we can no longer throw ELBOWS of ANY KIND (My thoughts on this is that they are hendering certain styles of the art, prime example MAUY THAI, now I'm not a THAI guy but they are taking away 2 of the most intricate parts of their game their bread and butter if U will . . . .The only real pro I can see to tis rule is making ppl adapt and switch their gameplan up. . . .) and that we can only throw knees 2 the body, they came and changed our championship rounds from THREE (5min) rounds to FIVE (3min) rounds and these are just a few things 2 start with . . .

My question's R do any of U ammy MMA fighters out there agree with or dissagree with some of these rules ? ? ?


Here are some of the othe guidlines as follows:




SECTION 5. (a) This SECTION applies to amateur unarmed combat.
(b) In addition to items required under SECTION 4 [of this document], an applicant for a license as a
sanctioning body must provide to the commission its proposed policies, rules, and regulations for
providing oversight of an event.
(c) The proposed policies, rules, and regulations required under this SECTION must include:
(1) The fees to be charged by the applicant for providing oversight at an event.
(2) The criteria for assigning officials to amateur unarmed combat bouts at an event.
(3) Information concerning any training programs or certifications the applicant requires of officials it
assigns to an event.
(4) Identification of the types of actions that will be considered a foul during an amateur unarmed
combat bout.
(5) Information regarding:
(A) weight classes;
(B) maximum weight differentials between opponents in different weight classes; and
(C) official weigh-in requirements;
for amateur unarmed competitors at an event.
(6) A procedure to ensure the promoter provides adequate security for the protection of the
participants at an event.
(7) A procedure for the administration of screening tests for illegal drugs of amateur unarmed
competitors participating at an event.
(8) A procedure to ensure that professional unarmed competitors do not participate in any amateur
unarmed combat bouts.
(9) The proposed bout restrictions for nonchampionship and championship bouts, which shall not
exceed:
(A) three (3) rounds of not more than three (3) minutes duration per round for nonchampionship
bouts; and
(B) five (5) rounds of not more than three (3) minutes duration per round for championship bouts.
(10) The proposed mandatory rest period each amateur unarmed competitor must take between
competing in each unarmed combat event, which shall be no fewer than seven (7) days.
(11) The proposed scoring system to be used by judges of an amateur unarmed combat bout.
(12) A requirement that each amateur unarmed competitor competing in an event has obtained a
mixed martial arts national identification card from any state, country, or tribal nation recognized by
the Association of Boxing Commissions.
(13) A requirement that no participant in an event is less than eighteen (18) years of age.
(14) A procedure for approving or denying fight cards.
(15) A procedure for verifying pre-fight medical tests occur timely.
(16) A procedure outlining action to be taken against an amateur unarmed competitor who has been
found to have a prohibited drug in his or her system.
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(17) A procedure for ensuring that no amateur unarmed competitor participates in an event while
under suspension in the website registry certified and operated by the Association of Boxing
Commissions.
(18) A procedure for determining any suspensions against an amateur unarmed competitor which
may be issued by the sanctioning body.
(19) Any information necessary for the commission, the executive director, or the executive director's
designee to determine that the sanctioning body is suitable to ensure the integrity of amateur
unarmed combat and the safety of amateur unarmed competitors.

[Justin Credible]

ALSO they have banned all ankle locks . . . .

[Dustin Lou]

i didnt read all of the rules, just the stuff you said...but in Illinois, amateurs can't use elbows either. and sometimes not even knees, it depends on the sanctioning body. And the rounds are 3-3 minute round, championship or not.

[Dennis Martinez]

In nj there are no elbows what so ever or knees to the head no ground and pound to the face we get a lot of bs when it come to ammy fights

[Hector Ramos]

ALSO they have banned all ankle locks . . . .

GTFO what?!?!? that is major bs

[AJ Camacho]

Dude, it's amateur fights. Building up experience without the worry of gashing up your face to crap is a good thing. The ankle lock rule is bullshit but otherwise, anything to get people acclimated to the cage with less risk of career ruining wear and tear is a good thing. Now you can make it to the pro division without having a face full of scar tissue.

[Dartangan Jackson]

Dude, it's amateur fights. Building up experience without the worry of gashing up your face to crap is a good thing. The ankle lock rule is bullshit but otherwise, anything to get people acclimated to the cage with less risk of career ruining wear and tear is a good thing. Now you can make it to the pro division without having a face full of scar tissue.

I agree. Its for amateur fights so its not too bad. I mean amateur fights are to get you experience in the cage and make sure u are ready for your pro fights. No use getting caught with some nasty elbows and messing ur face up with permanent scar tissue if u can avoid it. Not to mention the other crap that can end ur career early. Plus it gives u more reason to want to become pro so u can unleash ur full arsenal. And the ankle lock part. U can fudge someones ankle up pretty badly, pro fight more ok, amateur fight not so much its like how white belts and teens arent allowed to do them in most grappling tourneys. dont want to risk getting an early on career threatening injury if u dont have to. Thats just my thoughts.

[Justin Credible]

I understand and respect your's and AJ's point of view but my thoughs are its watered down MMA, hell they might as well put us in shin gaurds and helmets 2 ya dig what I'm sayin' how is someone gonna know if this is reeally what they wanna do if they don't know how 2 take a shot from a knee or an elbow ya know then when they tuirn pro and takle a good 1 from somebody they don't want NE parts of the sport anymore but hey (shrugs shoulders) . . . . I gues we just have 2 adapt 2 it and beside they weren't allowed 2 throw elbows in PRIDE I think

[joeln]

I have fought in NJ several times and train guys who fight/have fought in Ohio, VA, NJ, PA, and DE. I didn't know anyone still allowed elbows in amatuer. I am all for a liberal rule set but I hate elbows....especially in amatuer.

IMO PA has the worst (most limiting) rules of all the states I have been involved with. 2 min rounds, no striking contact to the head on the ground, shinpads, only straight leg locks, and no neck cranks. NJ is very similar but at least they have 3 minute rounds.

The strangest thing about the submission rules is you can do ANY submission in NAGA, but you could have an amatuer MMA competition in the same building, the same night and there are quite a few submissions you cannot do.

I believe it's because the athletic commision doesnt sanction grappling tournaments, but regardless it's still stupid.

[Brent Smith]

In Oregon we can't do elbows either. Knees are ok to the head standing though. Rounds are 3X3 mins long and depending on the promotion the championship fights are eith 3 or 5 rounders. Only straight ankle locks are ok and no neck cranks.
I think this way is perfect to prep for a pro career. A lot of people that fight amateur don't end up fighting pro so I think the rules are perfect.