How do we Handle Professional Jelousy?

[steamroller]

First of all, did any of you tell Hanno that he was not affiliated. it sounds to me like you spoke amongst yourselves but forget to let Hanno know therefore he carried on as if it was still pending. Eddie mentioned that you sent an email to Aldo, (my favourite shoe store by the way) but no mention that you sent a mail to Hanno.
I find it appalling that your so called professional company is run by a bunch of monkeys that look to Eddie as if he is God. its eddie this and eddie that... OMG grow up.I know his hairstyle is from like BC but ....

I sense that there is way too much testosterone in the room.

[Daniel Elizondo]

ok obviously you dont care for 10thPlanet so very simply put see your way out of here your teacher is a fraud end of story had he been honest about his belt status we wouldnt be having this conversation and by the way the real question is did anyone tell him he was affiliated in the first place also quit being a coward and use your real name "steamroller"

[Chris Herzog]

First of all, did any of you tell Hanno that he was not affiliated. it sounds to me like you spoke amongst yourselves but forget to let Hanno know therefore he carried on as if it was still pending. Eddie mentioned that you sent an email to Aldo, (my favourite shoe store by the way) but no mention that you sent a mail to Hanno.
I find it appalling that your so called professional company is run by a bunch of monkeys that look to Eddie as if he is God. its eddie this and eddie that... OMG grow up.I know his hairstyle is from like BC but ....

I sense that there is way too much testosterone in the room.

Can you read??? The man LIED about his rank, not 1x, not 2x, but 3x to Eddie alone, not counting how many times he lied to Alder as well. You guys from Cape Town keep skirting around the issue. THE MAN LIED TO EDDIE!, the head of the system he was applying for. You should be appalled at him, not the people that are defending the system that Hanno himself was trying to become a part of. Shame on you!

[John Roderick]

Hanno may be the nicest guy in the world but he lied to me and told me he got his bjj black belt in 1997 in New York. He even sent me the certificate but it was for a JJJ black belt. So I asked him again, are you a bjj black belt or jjj black belt? and he insisted that he was a bjj black belt. Then I told him in an email that I would put a hold on his affiliation until I got solid proof of his bjj black belt, but I never did so I decided to not return any of his emails until he sent solid proof. One email after another came, a bunch of emails asking me what I was gonna do about his affiliation and he sent me a bunch of different testimonials from people backing up his character but no proof. So I just ignored every single email hoping he would get the hint that I can't have anyone repping 10th Planet if they are lying about their rank. But he kept sending emails and I kept ignoring them hoping to avoid what's going on now, a public checking.

If he would have just told me the truth about his bjj rank everything would have been fine. Or if he would've just understood that when someone doesn't return any of your emails it means that you should just leave it alone.

What Master Eddie said. All; we JUST WENT THROUGH THIS WITH A GUY ON THE FORUM!! If you can't prove quickly and concretely what your rank is, either via a credible instructor, photographic proof, or some other means that you're a legit BJJ BLACK BELT, don't pursue a brown belt. Come in as white with humility and earn your successive rankings. If you're a LEGIT BJJ Black Belt, it should take you no time to prove your mettle to Eddie and "The Council". Prior to The Joker controversy, we had BQ. You can't back pedal! In this day and age of instantaneous information, you can't hide the truth for long. Eddie has always been cool with me, and all of us that are moons either came in as white, or had proof of our rank and were promoted up by Eddie. Additionally (speaking for myself) I was SO concerned with doing it the right way, I took my time and worked with Eddie and some of the moons regularly to check myself. Only after Eddie gave me the ok and started referring people to me, did I publicly state I was the Moon in the area. Sorry Cape Town guys, we're not trying to be dicks, just protecting our organization and founder.

[Jason Hyatt]

::Facepalm::

+1 and a *giggle*.

[Brent Smith]

I don't get you cape town guys. In any other profession, if someone lies about their credentials they get blasted by the community. If you're going to a neuro surgeon and it turns out he only went to school to be a veterinarian, do you continue to go to him cause he's a nice guy and studied the manuals inside and out? I know its not quite the same situation but its the same precedent.
Eddie worked hard to get through BJJ and received his BB. He worked his ass off to get this system to where it is today and for someone to try to skip to the head of the line on false merit is pretty damn disrespectful in my eyes. I'm by no means a sheep and I don't hold eddie in a godlike sense like you suggest but I sure as hell respect what he's gone through to get where he is today.

[Dennis Martinez]

What Master Eddie said. All; we JUST WENT THROUGH THIS WITH A GUY ON THE FORUM!! If you can't prove quickly and concretely what your rank is, either via a credible instructor, photographic proof, or some other means that you're a legit BJJ BLACK BELT, don't pursue a brown belt. Come in as white with humility and earn your successive rankings. If you're a LEGIT BJJ Black Belt, it should take you no time to prove your mettle to Eddie and "The Council". Prior to The Joker controversy, we had BQ. You can't back pedal! In this day and age of instantaneous information, you can't hide the truth for long. Eddie has always been cool with me, and all of us that are moons either came in as white, or had proof of our rank and were promoted up by Eddie. Additionally (speaking for myself) I was SO concerned with doing it the right way, I took my time and worked with Eddie and some of the moons regularly to check myself. Only after Eddie gave me the ok and started referring people to me, did I publicly state I was the Moon in the area. Sorry Cape Town guys, we're not trying to be dicks, just protecting our organization and founder.

straight up john said it all....hard work and time is the only way trying to cheat or lie will never workout for you

[psykro]

I'd just like to add my 2c right at the end here, and ask all 10th Planet members to not judge the rest of the Cape Town/South African bjj schools on this one situation. There are those of use who have instructors that have recognized ranks under well known black belts, who can present these credentials at any time. We are really working hard to grow bjj in South Africa and it is sad how something like this can tarnish our hard work and make the rest of us look bad to international eyes.

[TheGut]

I'd just like to add my 2c right at the end here, and ask all 10th Planet members to not judge the rest of the Cape Town/South African bjj schools on this one situation. There are those of use who have instructors that have recognized ranks under well known black belts, who can present these credentials at any time. We are really working hard to grow bjj in South Africa and it is sad how something like this can tarnish our hard work and make the rest of us look bad to international eyes.

Damb you Gracie guys are bitter!

[AJ Camacho]

Damb you Gracie guys are bitter!

Well, your coach is toying with the legitimacy of the BJJ lineage. Yeah, I'd imagine they would be bitter over this. I don't think you really understand how big of a deal this is.