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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack LaBarge View Post
    No! The two alleged muggers don't have to admit to anything. Some of the facts are: they were on the same side walk ( or alley) as Renzo. Two guys were beat up. Renzo waited for the other guy. Hard to claim self defense on that one. Tweets supporting those facts = Renzo settles out of court.
    Its tweets like "I ask him if he was planing to rob me, he says no. All he wanted was a cigarette, lol I can't help but have a big smile upon my face" that really dont help his case.

    Theres hardly any chance anything will ever come of this whole ordeal. Itll just be another interesting story to tack on to the Gracie families history
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    Don't put your hands on someone unless you're willing to risk getting fucked up, go to jail and yes even getting choked out 3 times... No sympathy for them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack LaBarge View Post
    No! The two alleged muggers don't have to admit to anything. Some of the facts are: they were on the same side walk ( or alley) as Renzo. Two guys were beat up. Renzo waited for the other guy. Hard to claim self defense on that one. Tweets supporting those facts = Renzo settles out of court(Civil case).
    These aren't legal students, they're two sum bag fucktards who fucked with the wrong guy. These assholes won't even tell their friends that they got their ass kicked by one guy let alone file a police report. I don't know if you know this but most criminals are uneducated as hell and wouldn't know how to properly utilize the police if their life depended on it.

    You're still talking as if everybody is in a courtroom. Shit won't even make it past the bedroom, that's how embarrassing this evening was for these two kooks. They limp home and tell people they got jumped by a gang or some dumb shit and nobody ever hears about it again. People get beat to hell everyday and nobody calls the cops, that's just how most days play out.

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    I dont see anything coming from it legally due to reasons already mentioned here but, it does seem this was not a case of self defense. he baited them by acting intoxicated, he took time talking shit to the guy while he beat him, he choked him out multiple times, he pursued the other guy, that's clearly not self defense. I dont pretend to know if these guys deserved it, they probably are pieces of shit, but it does not strike me as a manner in which a professional martial artist should conduct themselves. Kinda disappointing in a way.

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    How should martial artists act then? Cause he sure as fuck is one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobby rivers View Post
    How should martial artists act then? Cause he sure as fuck is one.

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    I get it now. Thank you

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    How is everyone so sure this actually happened? Cus Renzo said so?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack LaBarge View Post
    Renzo is a very wealth man. According to the number of students he has in his schools. He can afford a high price attorney to keep himself out of jail. But, lawsuit, forget about it. He would be screwed.
    Yes, he would be screwed. But, I don't believe I said any of this would happen. Just that it wouldn't be good for Renzo if this became a lawsuit because of the tweets.

    Quote Originally Posted by AJ Camacho View Post
    From a legal perspective, clearly it isn't the smartest move to tweet your revenge assault on a mugger.

    That being said, the muggers are in a weird scenario where they would have to concede that they mugged Renzo in the first place in order to put themselves in a situation to litigate against Renzo.
    Ah, no! The alleged muggers would not have to admit to anything to sue Renzo. But, Renzo tweets would help their case, absolutely. I forgot to quote my response. So everybody can go back and look what I said but, I never said in my reply that all this would happen. Implying that if it did & they had a decent attorney Renzo wouldn't be in a favorable position for a lawsuit. In 10th Planet terms he would be caught in Spider web.


    Quote Originally Posted by AJ Camacho View Post
    These aren't legal students, they're two sum bag fucktards who fucked with the wrong guy. These assholes won't even tell their friends that they got their ass kicked by one guy let alone file a police report. I don't know if you know this but most criminals are uneducated as hell and wouldn't know how to properly utilize the police if their life depended on it.

    You're still talking as if everybody is in a courtroom. Shit won't even make it past the bedroom, that's how embarrassing this evening was for these two kooks. They limp home and tell people they got jumped by a gang or some dumb shit and nobody ever hears about it again. People get beat to hell everyday and nobody calls the cops, that's just how most days play out.
    True, none of this will probably get to court and shit like this happens everyday. If it happened(lawsuit) or not was not my point. But, it absolutely could!!!! With different crazy self defense laws state to state. Choking people out is a big no no in a lot of states. Let alone 3 times (lol).

    My point is tweeting about this is a (I will use your word) fucktard thing to do legally. What you say or do can be used against you in a court of law.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobby rivers View Post
    How should martial artists act then? Cause he sure as fuck is one.
    that's how they should act - the man knew what would have happened if he wasn't a martial artist and i for one am happy to stand by him - bullies need to be educated

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