when have them turtled up and you have the hooks in one or two and you cant get the rnc! Well i feed one of my legs through as far as i can without getting to far back and i go to the oppisite side and you use the 100% neck and arm thing that will force them to flip over as this is happing you are siniking the lockdown at the same time in order to get the twister! As they flip over bc of the 100% lock on thier neck and arm you duck your head and you will have thier arm behind your head already!!!