Can Opener... kosher or no?

[Vincent Viglione]

Chris and Brandon said it perfectly. It is definitely something that can work very well against or for certain people. I roll with a wrestler who is VERY strong and even if he cannot get it setup 100% it can still break a closed guard.

Personally, I feel that the rules of tournaments and such are not a good reason to avoid a move. Would you have avoided learning the Twister because it was banned for all those years?

[Jeremy Gates]

from closed guard i dont like it, i wouldnt say it pisses me off if someone is cranking it on but its pretty annoying. if some one continues to do it i might just hold on a choke an extra second or two .

[Kurzy]

hmm. I thought the can crusher is legit.

[RayLie]

Thanks guys. I mainly checked, b/c I had it done to me a few yrs back when I used to train at 10P San Francisco around my 1st month of training and remember tapping to it b/c I didn't know to open my feet. I remember thinking it was a douchey move back then, but figured out how to counter and didn't care afterwards (never bothered to check w/other partners if it was kosher or not). I've since progressed other parts of my game, but never got good at opening feet - I generally just bait guys into going for sweeps or subs and got good at countering in order to pass.

We recently got a bunch of new white belts at my gym and realized that they don't know enough sweeps & subs for my strategy to work, so I've been spending a ton of time stalled in closed guard until I started can opening to open their feet. Based on what you guys are saying, I think it's time for me to buckle down and rep the old white belt guard passing techniques I should have mastered in the 1st place and keep the can opener in a glass case for emergencies. Prob gonna mean swallowing my pride & getting swept by white belts for a month, but that's the beauty of the game right?

[RayLie]

I used to use that before but i think it dsnt work well with more flexible and wrestlers, i think you saw the CSW series DVD

Yeah Arun, that's exactly where I got it from. Paulson's instructionals are great, but he also teaches a lot of techniques from a catch-wrestling perspective that are frowned upon at some BJJ schools, so I always like to double check before I go for them 100%. Really effective though.

[Kurzy]

Will you post a video of how you wrap on a can crusher while trapped in a close guard?

[Chris Herzog]

hmm. I thought the can crusher is legit.

Can Crusher and Can Opener are two diffrent things.

Can Opener = Neck crank from the guard.

Can Crusher = Smashing the arm against the head to step over to far side D'arce from Twister Side Control.

[Kurzy]

Thanks Zog.

Dyslexics UNTIE!!


Err, I mean, Unite...

[Chauncey Nu'usolia]

Lmao @ Kurzy

thanks ZOG i was lost I didnt even know thats what that was called...so ive never even had it done to me before but hey if it works

[Jack LaBarge]

GSP likes the Can Opener.