Sandy hook ...

[happyjourney]

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[derrick ikwueme]

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[Aaron Gustaveson]

Nice try.

Neither of those articles actually address any of the true discrepancies with this obvious false flag. They only mention the disinformation which was intentionally put out to lead people away from the real issues. Basically, they were strawmen which were built up to be knocked down and make "conspiracy theorists" look crazy.

WHERE'S THE VIDEO??

These are straw-men? These are the only assertions I'm aware of. What are the "true discrepancies"?

When you wrote "wheres the video" what video are you asking for?

[Kurzy]

man not everything is a conspiracy.

Yes. It is. It's huge.

[Nathan K.]

These are straw-men? These are the only assertions I'm aware of. What are the "true discrepancies"?

When you wrote "wheres the video" what video are you asking for?

The articles you provided don't really offer any attempt at "debunking", so I'll respond to the original Salon.com article from which all other similar articles stem. Basically, it is a reply to the hyper-popular thirty minute "Sandy Hook - Fully Exposed" video that got over ten million hits. I believe that the video in question was created as disinformation precisely so it could be easily debunked.

Below I will gloss over the individual points of the article and show how they mislead and ignore real questions. Here is the original propaganda piece:

http://www.salon.com/2013/01/18/your...piracy_theory/

1. "Why aren’t the adults sadder?"

Salon's answer to this question is a simple "People mourn in many different ways...", and they dare to suggest that the reactions of the parents were genuine because a "scientist" said so.
B-b-b-b-bullshit.

The parents and family members are not just "not sad", they are exuberant! Even when they try to act sad, they shed no tears. ZERO tears have been shed by family members. ZERO. Oh wait, not only has there been no crying, they have actually pretended to cry. There has been more emotion from bystanders. Sure, I concede that people react to situations in different ways, but this argument quickly collapses upon itself once you consider that every single person involved in this farce has reacted the same exact way: with zero true emotions. Odds, please? Compare this Columbine interview:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AITlyeUoQ5E

They aren't just actors, they are cult members. They exhibit classic signs of dissociated mind slaves who lack empathy and emotion. Even actors can cry. If you can show me one single tear shed by a family member so far, I will concede my delusion. And oh yeah, most of them moved to Newtown within the last two years.

Here’s some more grieving parent fiction:

nodisinfo.com/Home/2013/02/13/parker-firehouse-grief-pictures-a-total-fake-ap-implicated/

2. "What about Emilie?"

Salon references the "conspiracy" that Emilie Parker is pictured with the President after the shooting wearing the same dress from a previous family picture. The girl in the photo is obviously Emilie's supposed sister. The real question is why did they put the girl in her murdered sister's dress? I believe it was intentionally done to make the conspiracy theorists look foolish. It is one of the most prolific strawmen being used by the media. It’s called distraction.

They also address the alleged Photoshopping of a Parker family photo and pretty much blow it off (the picture of Emilie flashing the Baphomet sign is another strawman, it’s more misdirection). Of course, they conveniently link this unrelated topic (because it is one of the greatest pieces of evidence) to the Emilie Parker switcheroo so that readers will casually dismiss it. Well, the photo is Photoshopped, but in this photo it is hard to see for the untrained eye. But what the mainstream media will NEVER address is the FACT that most every photo of the victims IS Photoshopped. Here are some of the more blatant examples. Please prove me wrong. All of these photos were either released by the media or family facebook pages.

Vicki Soto and her "best friend":
http://nodisinfo.com/Home/wp-content...stfriends1.png
Soto and family:
http://nodisinfo.com/Home/wp-content...ppedfakefa.png
More Soto (where are the boy's legs?):
http://i1292.photobucket.com/albums/...ps15d1a527.jpg
More Soto (ocean tile artifact):
http://i1292.photobucket.com/albums/...ps011540a1.png
Grace McDonnell and mother:
http://nodisinfo.com/Home/wp-content...-mainphoto.png
A closer look:
http://nodisinfo.com/Home/wp-content...outchunks1.png
Transparent McDonnell:
http://nodisinfo.com/Home/wp-content...ellseethru.png
A closer look:
http://nodisinfo.com/Home/wp-content...seethrough.png
Daniel Barden (notice the hands):
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/...63_634x352.jpg
Catherine Hubbard (notice the backwards thumb):
http://nodisinfo.com/Home/wp-content...ard-thumb2.png
Does this look familiar?:
http://nodisinfo.com/Home/wp-content...ubbardcomp.png

These examples are only a fraction of what’s available. If these photos are faked, and they are, the question appears… Why fake them?

3. “Why do they all look the same?”

Salon attempts to inject humor with this cursory explanation: “Not all women with brown hair are the same person.”

Another strawman. It takes attention away from the fact that a lot of people involved are not really who they say they are. The most obvious example is the curious case of Nick and Laurie Phelps (a confirmed actress):

http://nodisinfo.com/Home/wp-content...enberg-ear.png

They are actually Richard Sexton and Jennifer Sexton-Greenberg from Florida:

http://nodisinfo.com/Home/2013/01/19...a-to-buzz-off/

And it gets better!

The children of Richard and Jennifer Sexton are pretending to be the family of teacher Vicki Soto!

http://beforeitsnews.com/opinion-con...s-2557294.html

4. “But what about the rifle?”

“It was the rifle!”, “The rifle was in the trunk.”, “It was a shotgun in the trunk!”

The account of what firearms were used changed constantly. It should have been a pretty easy thing to figure out. It’s interesting that the rifle was said to have been in the trunk early in the day (when it was still daylight, remember the coroner video?), but they didn’t show the video of them taking the shotgun out of the trunk until much later (the video is at night). *cough*bullshit*cough* They conveniently turned the shotgun into another strawman, and we’ll never know the truth.

But I digress… this issue only obscures the real firearm question... WHERE ARE THE PICTURES OF THEM?

5. “How come the memorial pages were created before the shooting?”

Salon explains that’s it’s merely a product of Google glitches (strawman). Conveniently, they disregard the fact that many of the post date discrepancies are on individual websites (including Facebook), and have ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH GOOGLE.

I won’t go any farther into this issue as I feel that there are bigger fish to fry.

6. “What about the car?”

This issue is far from debunked.

Here is the police radio:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETkrxfYoQtc

30:15 – Officer asks for license plate to be run: “872 YEO”
30:40 – Dispatch spells his name “Christopher A. Rodia”. Birth date “AUG 6 ‘69”.

Here is the picture of the car reported as Lanza’s:
http://news.yahoo.com/photos/car-dri...213310925.html

The documentary at the beginning of this thread handles the topic quite well.

7. “What about the man in the woods?”

Salon: “It was Chris Manfredonia, the father of a 6-year-old who attends the school. He was on his way to the school to make gingerbread houses with first-graders when he heard gunfire and smelled sulfur, so he ran.”
What Salon fails to mention is that he was supposed to be there at 2pm per his wife. If this was a mistake and he was there on time (four hours early), where were the other parents? He also lives 500 yards away from the Lanza residence. Why was he running with another man? He heard gunshots, so he ran AWAY from where his daughter was to hide in the woods? Sorry, not buying it.

8. “But there was another man in the woods (maybe)”

Not maybe. The video shows it all. There are two men.

Salon explains: “Actually, he was, according to the Newtown Bee, ‘an off-duty tactical squad police officer from another town’ who heard the gunfire.”

This is the same Newtown Bee that quoted the dead principal (see point 12)? And why exactly was this tactical squad officer even there (the whole event happened in minutes)? Why did he run? Too many questions, no answers.

9. “What about the third man at the firehouse?”

Who knows? We never will. Let’s move on.

10. “Then why did some eyewitnesses report multiple shooters?”

Because there were?

Salon cites “stress and confusion”. I’m more inclined to believe that to find the truth in any event like this, you must dissect the initial moments before information can become organized and controlled.

[Nathan K.]

11. “What about that Gene Rosen guy?”

Salon dismisses Rosen by basically saying “He isn’t a member of the Screen Actor’s Guild like that one video said, so case closed.”

Yeah right. Rosen’s stories (yes, stories, he keeps changing his mind) are so contrived, they are obviously fraudulent. Also, he is the CEO of CTV21 Newton Ct Video, a TV Network, however, the media insists on calling him a “retired psychologist”. Pretty fishy.

And, oh yeah, he really is an actor:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Avh_icAlonw

12. “But how was the dead principal quoted?”

Dawn Hochsprung, Sandy Hook's principal, had an interview with the Newtown Bee in which she stated "a masked man entered the school with a rifle and started shooting multiple shots" and that the shots were "more than she could count".

http://sandyhooktruth.files.wordpres...beearticle.png

One problem. She’s reported dead.

Salon replies:

“The Bee quickly posted a retraction and apology: ‘An early online report from the scene at the December 14 shootings at Sandy Hook Elementary School quoted a woman who identified herself to our reporter as the principal of the school. The woman was not the school’s principal, Dawn Hochsprung, who was killed in the Friday morning attack.’ Things are confusing in the aftermath.”

Yeah, I’m pretty damn confused. Who was this mysterious woman, and why does she seem to be the only one who actually saw a gunman? Does she not exist? Was she a practical joker? Or is Dawn H. not really dead? Read the following article and make your own decision:

http://nodisinfo.com/Home/2013/02/12...fake-marriage/

13. “What about the LIBOR connection?”

Simply another strawman. There is no evidence to support this claim, and it is widely being used to discredit those who are asking real questions.

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And finally, here are some real questions that need answering. Too bad it’s not gonna happen. This is only a small sample of the most important.

1. Where has Adam been? No one had seen Adam Lanza for three years prior to the event. Friends, relatives, NO ONE. He practically disappeared from the face of the earth. Neighbors had never seen Adam and Nancy Lanza before; they didn't even know that they lived at the supposed residence. The media has reported that he was a "genius" with computers, and yet he has no online footprint. Here are some quotes on the issue:

"I don't remember Adam, except when he was a child..."

"Reporters have been asking around if anybody knows them on the block... and nobody knows them... which is odd for this neighborhood, because a lot of people in this neighborhood know each other, and if they don't know each other, they know of somebody."

"And even someone who lived just two doors down from the Lanza's said they have very little information about the family and didn't really know Adam Lanza."

"About three years ago, back in 2009... after that... it seems that Adam Lanza simply fell off the face of the Earth. There isn't any record of what he did, what he may have accomplished, who he met with. We've had a very difficult time finding friends who even knew him from 2009 on."

2. What was Lanza's motive? No note, no nothing?

3. Why did Lanza have his brother’s VALID I.D. when he had not seen him in over three years? Why would he even want to have it with him?

4. No one saw anything. There aren’t any witnesses who actually saw Lanza.

5. No ambulances? No chaos? No way.

6. He could not have fired that many rounds in that amount of time. No jams. No firearms experience. He was a scrawny kid supposedly wearing his weight in tactical gear. How is this even possible?

7. FEMA was conducting an active-shooter drill minutes away from Sandy Hook Elementary at another school. This drill took place at the EXACT SAME TIME of the Sandy Hook shooting. The drill was called "FEMA L-366 Planning for the Needs of Children in Disasters". Footage from this drill was deliberately spliced into footage of Sandy Hook on CNN on the day of the shooting.

Question: Why?

Fun Fact: Anderson Cooper (who showed the footage), was an intern for the CIA before randomly deciding that he wanted to be a TV journalist instead.

8. Here is my response to your last question. I posted this in another thread:

“The school was filled with security cameras. The front door, which had a thick pane of wire-mesh reinforced glass, always remained locked and was complimented by a high-tech security camera equipped with facial recognition software overlooking it. School policy was that no one was allowed entry without first showing an I.D. to the camera. Personally, I would like to see how a scrawny semi-autistic kid carrying his own body weight in tactical gear and wearing a face mask penetrated these defenses, especially considering the official statement reports that he shot through the glass to gain entry even though the first police responders on the scene reported having to break through the locked door to get inside.

In almost every single event such as this, video and pictures have been released when available. But not only are we given zero video evidence, we don't even get one picture of the supposed murder weapons. The only photo we get is a single, ambiguous pic of a line of children being led through a parking lot?

In an age where everyone has the power of video and photography in their pockets? Compare this event to other shootings such as Columbine, Virginia Tech, the Rio de Janeiro school shooting... The video and pictorial evidence is comprehensive. Sandy Hook... WE HAVE NOTHING. There is every reason to suspect conspiracy, so get a grip.”

And I don’t expect you to care. It takes quite a lot of effort to even begin to understand the multi-generational cult which runs the planet and how they truly operate. I’m talking countless hours of research and study. And it’s evident by this thread that most people can’t even be bothered to sit on their asses with their eyes open for three hours.

[Nathan K.]

11. “What about that Gene Rosen guy?”

Salon dismisses Rosen by basically saying “He isn’t a member of the Screen Actor’s Guild like that one video said, so case closed.”

Yeah right. Rosen’s stories (yes, stories, he keeps changing his mind) are so contrived, they are obviously fraudulent. Also, he is the CEO of CTV21 Newton Ct Video, a TV Network, however, the media insists on calling him a “retired psychologist”. Pretty fishy.

And, oh yeah, he really is an actor:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Avh_icAlonw

12. “But how was the dead principal quoted?”

Dawn Hochsprung, Sandy Hook's principal, had an interview with the Newtown Bee in which she stated "a masked man entered the school with a rifle and started shooting multiple shots" and that the shots were "more than she could count".

http://sandyhooktruth.files.wordpres...beearticle.png

One problem. She’s reported dead.

Salon replies:

“The Bee quickly posted a retraction and apology: ‘An early online report from the scene at the December 14 shootings at Sandy Hook Elementary School quoted a woman who identified herself to our reporter as the principal of the school. The woman was not the school’s principal, Dawn Hochsprung, who was killed in the Friday morning attack.’ Things are confusing in the aftermath.”

Yeah, I’m pretty damn confused. Who was this mysterious woman, and why does she seem to be the only one who actually saw a gunman? Does she not exist? Was she a practical joker? Or is Dawn H. not really dead? Read the following article and make your own decision:

http://nodisinfo.com/Home/2013/02/12...fake-marriage/

13. “What about the LIBOR connection?”

Simply another strawman. There is no evidence to support this claim, and it is widely being used to discredit those who are asking real questions.

---

And finally, here are some real questions that need answering. Too bad it’s not gonna happen. This is only a small sample of the most important.

1. Where has Adam been? No one had seen Adam Lanza for three years prior to the event. Friends, relatives, NO ONE. He practically disappeared from the face of the earth. Neighbors had never seen Adam and Nancy Lanza before; they didn't even know that they lived at the supposed residence. The media has reported that he was a "genius" with computers, and yet he has no online footprint. Here are some quotes on the issue:

"I don't remember Adam, except when he was a child..."

"Reporters have been asking around if anybody knows them on the block... and nobody knows them... which is odd for this neighborhood, because a lot of people in this neighborhood know each other, and if they don't know each other, they know of somebody."

"And even someone who lived just two doors down from the Lanza's said they have very little information about the family and didn't really know Adam Lanza."

"About three years ago, back in 2009... after that... it seems that Adam Lanza simply fell off the face of the Earth. There isn't any record of what he did, what he may have accomplished, who he met with. We've had a very difficult time finding friends who even knew him from 2009 on."

2. What was Lanza's motive? No note, no nothing?

3. Why did Lanza have his brother’s VALID I.D. when he had not seen him in over three years? Why would he even want to have it with him?

4. No one saw anything. There aren’t any witnesses who actually saw Lanza.

5. No ambulances? No chaos? No way.

6. He could not have fired that many rounds in that amount of time. No jams. No firearms experience. He was a scrawny kid supposedly wearing his weight in tactical gear. How is this even possible?

7. FEMA was conducting an active-shooter drill minutes away from Sandy Hook Elementary at another school. This drill took place at the EXACT SAME TIME of the Sandy Hook shooting. The drill was called "FEMA L-366 Planning for the Needs of Children in Disasters". Footage from this drill was deliberately spliced into footage of Sandy Hook on CNN on the day of the shooting.

Question: Why?

Fun Fact: Anderson Cooper (who showed the footage), was an intern for the CIA before randomly deciding that he wanted to be a TV journalist instead.

8. Here is my response to your last question. I posted this in another thread:

“The school was filled with security cameras. The front door, which had a thick pane of wire-mesh reinforced glass, always remained locked and was complimented by a high-tech security camera equipped with facial recognition software overlooking it. School policy was that no one was allowed entry without first showing an I.D. to the camera. Personally, I would like to see how a scrawny semi-autistic kid carrying his own body weight in tactical gear and wearing a face mask penetrated these defenses, especially considering the official statement reports that he shot through the glass to gain entry even though the first police responders on the scene reported having to break through the locked door to get inside.

In almost every single event such as this, video and pictures have been released when available. But not only are we given zero video evidence, we don't even get one picture of the supposed murder weapons. The only photo we get is a single, ambiguous pic of a line of children being led through a parking lot?

In an age where everyone has the power of video and photography in their pockets? Compare this event to other shootings such as Columbine, Virginia Tech, the Rio de Janeiro school shooting... The video and pictorial evidence is comprehensive. Sandy Hook... WE HAVE NOTHING. There is every reason to suspect conspiracy, so get a grip.”

And I don’t expect you to care. It takes quite a lot of effort to even begin to understand the multi-generational cult which runs the planet and how they truly operate. I’m talking countless hours of research and study. And it’s evident by this thread that most people can’t even be bothered to sit on their asses with their eyes open for three hours.

[Aaron Gustaveson]

that or maybe your crazy.

[Nathan K.]

that or maybe your crazy.

Good boy.

Your masters are very proud.

[Aaron Gustaveson]

I just couldn't spend my time responding when the first thing in the list was "why aren't the parents sadder?". What a crock of shit. Insulting to everyone involved.

With your manner of thinking it is just as possible that the sandy hook conspiracy is simply to distract from a different and even more sinister plot.

I've been servicing and installing electric security equipment for over 13 years including CCTV systems. The idea that a school (public or private) had "high tech" cameras and especially facial recognition ability is laughable, you have no idea what you are parroting. I cant legally disclose what security equipment a particular entity has because I am a certified alarm installer and I could loose my licence if I did disclose that. But the level of tech you are claiming this school had would be superior to the numerous state, federal and corporate buildings I have work for. Some of these places handled very sensitive data, I cant say what because that would give away who the customer was and since I said they didnt have a particular security measure I would be breaking the law that regulates my trade.

Obviously who are serving some kind of secret group whos goal is to distract from society's true ills by pushing outrageous conspiracy theories, your master are very proud.