Tips for engaging a cart-wheel and rolling kimura type style?

[Brian Debes]

Here’s how you shouldn’t do it (how I did it today). I knew what was happening too… Not really used to this type of guy…. Tips from people who deal with these guys on the regular?

[Louis Ho]

When you're playing butt scoot, keep your palms facing up and elbows closer to your body. Way harder for anyone to control your arms.

[Matt Wallace]

Good action, man. What Louis said is the advice my coaches have given me several times & has really helped. The elbows part is especially true and keeps the whole body connected in defense. Good luck on the next one, bro!

[Cody Kietzman]

Keep your arms inside. I'm a butterfly player and i never let my arms outside my knees.

[Eddie Bravo]

like stated above, stay t-rexxed, especially the top arm, and focus on capturing his foot (black mamba). Top arm t-rexxed plus 1/4 guard = no rolling kimuras

[ern]

Thanks for posting this and getting all this feedback. I am trying to learn butterfly guard and this feedback is helping me. Now that guys in my gym are adapting to me trying to play "butt scoot" butterfly guard, some are trying to jump around it. I had no answer for it, and wasn't finding too many online videos to help.

Thanks again. This site is priceless.

[bobby rivers]

I agree with all. Elbows next to your ribs and connected to your knee when he attacks. Maintain your structural frame. If he can separate either of these during his attack your caught. When he dives,rolls, twists, etc, roll to your back(like you did) but deny him any control between your elbows and ribs or your back.

This is my main attack on buttscooters, because if you can beat him to the roll, you have positional advantage. Another option with this type of opponent would be to stand, clench, then pull guard. Easier to establish control on such an athelete. Im not sure if you drill dynamic guard pulling, but flying triangle or omo from standing overhook would fit beautifully in your game. Your good man.

[Josh Bodmon]

Hey man, good fight. Obviously not what you wanted, but very exciting and good job pushing to be proactive and not laying down to accept his flying acrobatic stuff. As a fellow buttscooter, the advice everyone has given you has been awesome so I appreciate you bringing this up. My instructor Stew and training partners have given me the same hard time with this stuff and at least now you can use this experience to sharpen up your game when you buttscoot. That t-rex is so key. Don't need to be too aggressive if you're the one who initiated the contact when you go to pull. Remember that. He's got to come to you sometimes if you grabbed a grip and went to pull open guard. Keep them butterfly hooks tight and those arms t-rexxed if he starts to try and do that flying stuff because you want to bring him into your game but deviate from his ability to grab for techniques like the kimura or knee cut, leg drag or double under pass you. Competition is the dopest way to learn, gain experience, and find the deficiencies in our game, so best of luck and thanks again for posting about this!