de La Riva Guard for No-Gi

[bobby rivers]

Once you get the boot, its like puttin a broomstick in the spokes of a bike. He cant turn into you and im prepared for him to turn away. If he stays still I climb.

[Mike Nall]

Chris, I 1,000% believe that a strictly nogi guy can effectively learn and execute an effective dlr. Mike is right and you eluded to it as well. Its about improving position. How is sweeping or taking the back not optimal for sub only? I swear to you Ive never trained to get a point in my life and never will.(I am mindful of them tho)

Mike, you'll never get shit from me man. You know your shit. Dlr has more controling options in gi, yes. But I only play it like that if im tired even in gi. My main objective is to get my outside leg across his far hip and put a boot on while constantly climbing his body like I just kicked a grizzly bear in the nuts. Once i get the boot Im either inverting or grabbing the far ankle or hip or both. I NEVER let go of both hands at the same time. If you do that the grizzly gets you and you both fall into lava.

I still like going across to the far hip. I didn’t realize this until I trained with Rafa and Gui but there are two basic ways to play DLR. One is going to the far hip and the other is just keeping the back of your DLR hook foot on their quad. So literally the reverse DLR is that on the inside.

The Mendes bros were pretty adamant about not extending the leg to the far hip as they think it invites the backstep pass. I don’t know that I agree and I play DLR both ways. Just because they say it doesn’t make it gospel. Marcelo has opinions I disagree with too. We have to figure it out ourselves ya know?

[bobby rivers]

Yes. I heard him say that too, so I stopped for a sec. My results went waaay down. Im with you man, maybe I can make it work. Everybody gave me shit bout 10p as well. Now dey all up on my nuts.

However, I keep instructors like Rafa and Marcelo's words in the back of my head at all times. There have been plenty of times when it takes me 2 years to look back and say, "Ooooh, thats why!"

[bobby rivers]

Im looking to catch the backstep with my heel control hand as well. If I miss right back to the heel. If he clears the hook, spiral. Im on my shoulder and side of my face most of the time and my hips are off the ground. Mobility.

[bobby rivers]

Im jackin this thread till I get a money shot

[Ryan Brick]

I learned DLR technique last week at Marcelo's....I liked it and have hit this live it is quick transition to the back. You're in DLR with control of your opponents close wrist... Most people will try to step back to try to pass. When they step back take your free leg and insert the foot behind the close knee. Pulling you to his back. Then kick your legs foward and your opponent will fall....now you have their back. It worked effectively live yesterday and today in live matches.

This is the only DLR move I use, my old sambo instructor showed it to me.

When I trained in a gi I was very good at DLR, but when I switched to no-gi I was lighter then everyone and my grips werent strong enough to maintain the wrist control and my opponents would fall for kneebars and toeholds on me.

Im sure if you put lots of time into it that it will be effective nogi.

But I think in terms of being time/cost effective it isnt great for lower belts, like if you put 10 hours into standing up for single legs you would hit those at a higher rate then if you spent the same amount of time on DLR. It isnt something I will spend time developing for a while, I usually go for single legs, 1 leg x-guard when people are standing above me like that.

But there are some real legit sweeps and subs that can be locked up from there.

[bobby rivers]

This was also how I fell in love with Dlr. Zog showed it to us, so the sambo connection makes sense.

I can't stress enough that just because you cant control his wrist and there is no lapel, doesn't mean there is no control and you should abandon. If he keeps his hands up, hit the body, when he drops his hands, hit the chin. Same principle. Something is open.

[Brent Smith]

Man what a fantastic discussion. Nobody getting angry. Everybody stating their opinion. Thats how 10 do

[Josh Bodmon]

Man what a fantastic discussion. Nobody getting angry. Everybody stating their opinion. Thats how 10 do

Fully agree, as someone playing with a tonne of this stuff, its fantastic discussion and includes plenty of info and perspective that I can absorb from you guys

[Kurzy]

I almost got eaten by a real shark snorkeling in key West yesterday!! Too soon Bobby!!

Forget that. You won't catch me snorkelling in a sharks kitchen. Thank God for fresh water lakes!