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    I'm gonna estimate half bout half that. I'm one of those six year white belts when it comes to the internets due to mild retardation.

    Oh and. You wanna go!?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cora Sek View Post
    Bobby: that is exactly my point. I am trying to help out all the boys her size. If I can help them get better, that will eventually help Cora. Right now, without teaching them techniques, what I'm doing is talking to their parents and try to rally the kids to go to competition more. I notice that when the boys have tournament coming up, they train harder. So if they go to tournament more often, then they train harder most of the time and thus they will get better. I know it works because Cora is the proof. I however, don't want to step on the coaches toe by teaching the boys what I teach Cora, you know what I mean? But when they spar with Cora after class, I do tell them what they are doing wrong and help them correct it. THis boy right here is a good sport, but he hardly ever come to class, maybe once or twice a week. He's been doing Jiu Jitsu for 5 years already. When Cora first started, he was one of the class bully that would order her around... He would love to partner up with her because he knows he can tap her. Needless to say he was one of the 1st name Cora scratched out off her hit list. But yeah I do understand where you are coming from. There's about 3-4 more Orange belts kids Cora's size, but they are in the same boat as this boy, just not improving that much at all. What's confuse me is that these boys have older brother that take Jiu Jitsu also. I would hint to their brothers to drill with them at home or teach them how to get out of things, but no results.
    This is a touchy situation. I see this a lot though. Most kids don't take it serious enough to progress very quickly, but thre are a few in every class that do. The best case scenario would be if her instructor would start to recognize and put her with bigger/older people but that doesn't always happen. I have a couple kids in my school who only come to the adult classes for this reason. They pass up the other kids pretty quickly, then are held back because of training partners. I usually will let them know when it's time to bump up.

    All of mine are 12 and over though. So it's not that big of a deal.

    Just be careful with that situation. Respect her instructor. He may have a plan for her you don't see

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    Sean: touchy situation?? LOL here's the latest update from this evening at the gym. We were told this evening by Cora's immidiate coach (blue belt) that the head coach doesn't like us recording any of the sparring at the gym. WE ARE SHOCKED!!!! to hear this because we been doing it for 2 years now ever since she started. He said that other parents are starting to do this as well and its not good. And continue to say that there are some parents that don't like their kids being recorded. But none of the parents for the past 2 years have any issues with us recording Cora sparring with their kids before. ANd the ones she spar with, their parents are our friends as we hang out and enjoy watching our kids spar. However, the head coach has not one time ever brought this to our attention. He is relaying messages through the blue belt coach only. Another thing is that the head coach is now my friend on FaceBook and can see all my activities in regards to 10thplanet as I have so many 10thplanet friends. ANd also he told me that with me posting all of Cora's tournament matches online is not good either. He said that all her opponent can see what she got and prepare for it. I told him it doesn't matter with us what they know. We are not about winning tournaments and medals, but only looking for the toughest fights so Cora can learn from them. I'm thinking he might be some what jealous of 10thplanet or something because we been doing the same thing since day 1. The only thing different is our involvement with 10thplanet and all the 10thplanet friends we have now. Also with Master Eddie helping Cora video get almost 40,000 hits maybe play a factor in that also as people thinking that Cora is a 10thplanet student. I don't know, he never said anything to us. He's never that much around to be honest. The other parents are starting to talk also. They ask me why are our kids, who are in the "black belt club", but they are being taught by a blue belt? I just reply "I don't know". I see other top level kids getting train by their black belt like the Mendes bros. I guess this is the main reason why I am here most of the time. You see, if our black belt isn't really doing much for Cora, for her to compete at high level, I have to search out for help from other black belt, and thankfully I have found Master Eddie and the 10thplanet family.

    Its past 12 midnight and so please take it for what it is... I just needed to vent out....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cora Sek View Post
    Sean: touchy situation?? LOL here's the latest update from this evening at the gym. We were told this evening by Cora's immidiate coach (blue belt) that the head coach doesn't like us recording any of the sparring at the gym. WE ARE SHOCKED!!!! to hear this because we been doing it for 2 years now ever since she started. He said that other parents are starting to do this as well and its not good. And continue to say that there are some parents that don't like their kids being recorded. But none of the parents for the past 2 years have any issues with us recording Cora sparring with their kids before. ANd the ones she spar with, their parents are our friends as we hang out and enjoy watching our kids spar. However, the head coach has not one time ever brought this to our attention. He is relaying messages through the blue belt coach only. Another thing is that the head coach is now my friend on FaceBook and can see all my activities in regards to 10thplanet as I have so many 10thplanet friends. ANd also he told me that with me posting all of Cora's tournament matches online is not good either. He said that all her opponent can see what she got and prepare for it. I told him it doesn't matter with us what they know. We are not about winning tournaments and medals, but only looking for the toughest fights so Cora can learn from them. I'm thinking he might be some what jealous of 10thplanet or something because we been doing the same thing since day 1. The only thing different is our involvement with 10thplanet and all the 10thplanet friends we have now. Also with Master Eddie helping Cora video get almost 40,000 hits maybe play a factor in that also as people thinking that Cora is a 10thplanet student. I don't know, he never said anything to us. He's never that much around to be honest. The other parents are starting to talk also. They ask me why are our kids, who are in the "black belt club", but they are being taught by a blue belt? I just reply "I don't know". I see other top level kids getting train by their black belt like the Mendes bros. I guess this is the main reason why I am here most of the time. You see, if our black belt isn't really doing much for Cora, for her to compete at high level, I have to search out for help from other black belt, and thankfully I have found Master Eddie and the 10thplanet family.

    Its past 12 midnight and so please take it for what it is... I just needed to vent out....
    Yes, touchy because you trying to teach the other kids or influence them could be taken badly by the coach there. As far as the other stuff going on. Are you representing their school at the tournaments? If you aren't giving them any credit at all, that's probably why they are upset. Loyalty is big my friend. Representing 10p is beautiful, but not representing the school that is giving her a home to grow in the art isn't cool.

    I'm not saying you guys aren't. Just trying to understand the situation.

    As far as the recordings go, a lot of places won't let you record. It's kind of weird that they would let it go and then try to stop it, but that could be because of other things going on.

    Hope it works out

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    Exactly. They don't want to resent it. But deep down, they do. The secret is to not be the squeaky wheel. Which is hard when you're wreckin comps and training. Lay low on fb and just hang out here while your at his gym. He deserves that respect.

    When I see this behavior I don't try to place blame. I just vow to never be that way when I get my gym.

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    That is a very unpleasant situation I'm sure. Respect the rules your instructor has and rep your academy clearly. Keep the 10th Planet patches smaller than your current school's patches. We wil always be here for you but if you wanna keep going to that school you are gonna have to play by their rules. I hope they don't make you stop posting Cora's tournament videos on this forum, that would suck. Btw the video on this thread doesn't work anymore, I didn't get a chance to see
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    Sean: represent the team? I don't think you can find any other parents that represent her team more than us. I help rally other parents to take their kids to tournament. I always share story of how going to tournaments help improve Cora's game. When there is an in house seminar, I help rally the other kids to go, and we also go because we know that those in house seminars proceeds goes toward helping sponsor the team to go and fight. When there is a party, my wife would spend all day cooking something to share with the team. Her egg rolls and fries rice are killer. Since Cora compete more than most, Cora and I always go around and gather the kids to group up together and be a team, all of this is done even before any of their coaches ever show up. And when the coaches doesn't show up to the tournament, I help coach the kids who needed help and for that their parent are thankful. If you haven't notice also, Cora hasn't worn her 10thplanet rashguard lately because we want to show more "team spirit" and be an example to the new kids that are just now starting to compete. For two years, we always ask them if they have rash guard in kids size, but they never do. So we bought a 10thplanet rashguard from John Botello in Phenoix and Cora's been wearing that. And now guess what....they have kids rashguard. And right away we got one and Cora been wearing it. All of her Gi are decked out in team logos. Also not to mention at every tournament, my wife and I also wear the team t shirt. As many tournaments as Cora goes to and always get on the podium, I think everyone in Houston know who she representing. So representing the team?....yeah we got that...

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    You know Bruce, for a while I was posting on the grappling subforum over at Sherdog. I was on a crusade to convice them that 10P is the future and legit. I have since given up on that forum, because I came to the realization that it is full of close-minded assholes who hate for the sake of hating.
    This was just a few months ago.

    Anyways so while I was there I posted Cora's video, to showcase the effectiveness and simplicity of the 10P system. The haters hated and bashed and nothing good came out of it.

    One comment that one guy made did stick with me though. He basically said that it was a shame that Master Eddie was getting all the credit for Cora's tourney wins, and there was no mention of (and no thanks to) her head coach, who assumedly taught her her entire JJ foundation.

    But what can you do? Rubberguard works.


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    Master Eddie and bobby: respect...yes I do understand where both of you are coming from. And I don't want to be that squeaky wheel. We like it there, the atmosphere is great. I and other parents always have a blast watching our kids battle on the mat. We become friends, just this past weekend one of the boy had a bday party and invited all of the black belt club and we all were hanging out at this rock climbing place. So we are not just restricted to the BJJ. We are people and people make friends just like you and I. It just so happen that our kids love of JJ brings us all together. We consider ourselves team player and will always abide by the rules that are set up.

    However, what i do online is different. I don't think any school can tell me that I can't post my daughter's tournament videos up online. That is probably my limit right there. Before I found 10thplanet, I was searching all over the internet for any footage of kids doing rubber guard and there were none to be found. I am sharing ALL of Cora's matches because maybe there are someone like me looking for help, looking for direction. ANd if I can help just one person out, then I did my job in sharing.

    As far as the video of this thread, I took it off because I dont' want any other drama due to it. It was taken at the gym as I always have with the same boy as before. Just him and Cora rolling because he hasn't been to the gym in a while and needed some sparring time with Cora. Also I post it to show you what Cora and I been working on lately. But due to all this, I just decided to take all the video that are taken at the gym off our channel. Apologies...

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    Kurzy: thank you for sharing that brother. I'm new to editing videos as you can see and are very limited at what I can do. But if you pause the videos of her tournament at the end, I do give credit where credit is due everytime. Cora is a product of her blue belt coach (Cameron Graves) which I shared some of his tournaments on here, and ME by way of Master Eddie Bravo. Coach Cameron Graves and I have an understanding that he will teach her his BJJ stuff at the gym and I stay out of it. And at home, I will teach Cora 10thplanet JJ. With this combination, I can foresee that she will be doing great things by the end of this year. At times Cora already start to fight like Coach Cameron but with the added 10thplanet JJ. I can't help it if Cora go to move is the Rubber guard and that ALL the people associate Rubber guard with Master Eddie. Credit to Master Eddie for bringing out the Rubber guard the way he did and putting it on display for the world.

    The politics of it all just make me sick. You see there is another little asian girl about 13 years old that goes to one of the other affiliate school of ours and her flexibility is off the chart. She is already good, but when I watched her fight, in my mind, I'm thinking I can turn this girl into a killer with what talent she has. Cora and I sit there and shout out quietly in our head "Rubber Guard". But due to me not wanting to step on anyone's toe, we just shut up and enjoy the fight. We want to share this thing so much. All her coaches see what Cora can do with the rubber guard, but never once they ever say anything to us. If I was a coach seeing a kid doing great things with a techniques, hey I'm not too proud to go and ask for some pointers. Well that's just me.

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