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    Lmao! That's the true secret of the gi! It's a glorified sweat rag. Also patches make me better. That's the theory I'm working off anyway...

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    I get this in class some times too. Rolling, I will have a tight new york, taking my time to move forward on a path but it can be slow because I'm not that good at it yet. I just ignore it and try to keep going. Funny that if I go for a twister, they love it.

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    hahah exactly!

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    Well folks I've been working without Rubberguard and lockdown for a few months now. I've basically been told that I can't get my blue at this gym if I'm going to use those techniques. So I thought I'd try just going without it for awhile. It did help open me up to other parts of my game at first, like more open guard. But it fucking kills me when I have a guy broken down in guard and I can't use my RG to Oma or when I have someone in half guard and I really need that lockdown to keep them off me.

    I think I'm about to just snap and drive a lot further to go train at another gym that won't be so ignorant. It's breaking my heart a little since this issue aside I like the gym, it's a few blocks away (which makes it easy to get in often) and the students are a good bunch of guys that I would miss. I have improved greatly in my short time there but I have also lost a big part of my game that I love.

    It came to head today when I asked my coach if it would at least be ok if I used all my techniques in a tournament setting even if not at the gym. I could just feel the frustration and annoyance that I even asked the question. He more or less said he's rather have me compete then not but that if I use those techniques he'll be yelling at me to stop doing them. Oh yes and along with all the usual that shit doesn't work, why would you do that etc.

    I feel like I'm betraying myself if I just give in and give up on things I love. Would you guys let it go?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Odell (Datsusara) View Post
    Well folks I've been working without Rubberguard and lockdown for a few months now. I've basically been told that I can't get my blue at this gym if I'm going to use those techniques. So I thought I'd try just going without it for awhile. It did help open me up to other parts of my game at first, like more open guard. But it fucking kills me when I have a guy broken down in guard and I can't use my RG to Oma or when I have someone in half guard and I really need that lockdown to keep them off me.

    I think I'm about to just snap and drive a lot further to go train at another gym that won't be so ignorant. It's breaking my heart a little since this issue aside I like the gym, it's a few blocks away (which makes it easy to get in often) and the students are a good bunch of guys that I would miss. I have improved greatly in my short time there but I have also lost a big part of my game that I love.

    It came to head today when I asked my coach if it would at least be ok if I used all my techniques in a tournament setting even if not at the gym. I could just feel the frustration and annoyance that I even asked the question. He more or less said he's rather have me compete then not but that if I use those techniques he'll be yelling at me to stop doing them. Oh yes and along with all the usual that shit doesn't work, why would you do that etc.

    I feel like I'm betraying myself if I just give in and give up on things I love. Would you guys let it go?
    Hell no, id switch gyms. If the instructor is that closed minded then i would head elsewhere regardless of how close it was. But really its up to you, if you are not happy there then go, but if you are minus the RG LD thing then stay. In the end it is your decision
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    Andrew, yeah that's probably the way it's going to end up. I guess I'm just venting and making sure my thoughts are reasonable. It's really a shame and I wish I could just get it into this guys head that using those techniques can be legit and useful, but he's more stubborn than I so that's the way it is. I hear Kaijin in Santa Cruz is somewhat more chill so I might head down there.

    I really wish I could train at a 10th Planet or at SBGI. I went to 10th Planet Portland lately which was great and I also visited my old friends at the SBGI HQ there and they were quite fine with my RG and LD etc.. (even though some SBGI instructors will give you some shit about it now and then like James from the UK mentioned, but it's all in good humor).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Odell (Datsusara) View Post
    Well folks I've been working without Rubberguard and lockdown for a few months now. I've basically been told that I can't get my blue at this gym if I'm going to use those techniques. So I thought I'd try just going without it for awhile. It did help open me up to other parts of my game at first, like more open guard. But it fucking kills me when I have a guy broken down in guard and I can't use my RG to Oma or when I have someone in half guard and I really need that lockdown to keep them off me.

    I think I'm about to just snap and drive a lot further to go train at another gym that won't be so ignorant. It's breaking my heart a little since this issue aside I like the gym, it's a few blocks away (which makes it easy to get in often) and the students are a good bunch of guys that I would miss. I have improved greatly in my short time there but I have also lost a big part of my game that I love.

    It came to head today when I asked my coach if it would at least be ok if I used all my techniques in a tournament setting even if not at the gym. I could just feel the frustration and annoyance that I even asked the question. He more or less said he's rather have me compete then not but that if I use those techniques he'll be yelling at me to stop doing them. Oh yes and along with all the usual that shit doesn't work, why would you do that etc.

    I feel like I'm betraying myself if I just give in and give up on things I love. Would you guys let it go?
    Can you submit him with it?

    He probably thinks its weak and is telling you not to use it because he thinks it will slow your progress and make you worse than his stuff.... but he is going about communicating that with you in an backwards manner. its hard to tell the intent that this guy brings to the table without hearing the tone of his voice.

    you could do drop ins at the further gym and work rubber guard there and at this guys gym just work everything else then do what ever works best for you in tournaments. if he doesnt do rubberguard you wouldnt be listening to his advice in tournaments anyway what does it matter if he is yelling "stop that" or not knowing what to yell to advance you to the next rubber guard control position...

    its a shitty position to be caught in, do you want to train under someone who makes you feel poorly?

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    Bump that dude....he clearly cares more about his ego than your progression as a player. I'm not a big deep half player, but if one of my guys was developing a mean deep half, I'd most definitely not try to stop him.

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    Find a new school, or train on your own in your basement or something if you have to. Anyone who wants to put limitations on your potential is no good for you.

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    Find another god damn school homie. Jesus christ mate, lifes waaaay too short to not go after that which you love. Mate, pack your bags and be excited for the future as it is bright. You stay where you are and I guarantee a whole lot of darkness bro. Move on, train on go get it. I actually had to do it myself. I wasted three years training with the same bozo mentality, then decided to pursue 10PJJ and have never looked back since. My actions, student performances in comp and my own comp performances won most of the BJJ community over so it was so worth it. Move on!

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