Yesterday we attended a gathering of some of the BJJ kids in the Houston and surrounding area. Cora's first match, I was watching from far away, I saw her pull guard on this kid, then went into her rubber guard mode. Right away I see her go for the Gogoplata, the other kid stuffed it. Then Cora dig under her leg and hit the Frodoplata!!!! TAP OUT!!! The kid looked shock, Cora ran to me and said "Daddy, that frodoplata really work!!" She was all excited. I don't know about the adult, but for the kids, I think it will work all the time. Especially when they have never been in one.