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    Somewhere in the ocean the Kraken is crying. Always being opressed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Herzog View Post
    I'm naming the next technique I come up with "Ass to Mouth", Just so Ric can rename it ATM for his kids.

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    I love how so many jump on Eddie's balls and explain exactly what he's feeling and how he believes lol. To be quite honest, I've seen a rather substantial change in Eddie since the birth of his son. In Decatur he showed us his wallpaper and talked about how everything is about his boy now, he's his life. Since then, I've seen him censor himself at numerous seminars and training camps. He used some different names for previously named techs as well as toning down talk about the herb whenever kids were in attendance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phill Schwartz View Post
    I have heard Eddie say some less PC things than Crackhead control imho. On my first day at HQ we had a long conversation about Snatching the arm for Twister from Truck. "Most you boys never seen a snatch this good."

    This kind of talk is probably why I am part of 10 P.
    Ahh yes! Eddie has the best stories to tie the techs to names.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David Rosado View Post
    Reading is fundamental. LOL. I explained. Any word that can get my kid in trouble in school is not a word that I'd like her repeating just yet.

    Not sure why people are getting so annoyed about it. Call it whatever you want. Teach your kids to curse if you want. But some people do have a preference. That's the beauty of America. I don't think it needs an official renaming, but I think it's fine to have an alternative for your own kids or a kids program you run. In fact, I do recall one of the moon heads mentioning that he does rename some moves for his kids program so it's not like this is some horribly far fetched absolutely bullshit idea. Haha. You'd swear 10thP were a religion or something.
    I did miss your post and understand not wanting certain words to enter your children's vocabulary I employ the same policy. ...and of course I agree people can call the techniques whatever they want and understand moon instructors changing the vocabulary for there kids classes to not offended parents and protect there business. But none of that explains how the word crackhead is offensive and if any of my kids 12, 8 and 5 none of which has ever had not one single disciplinary situation at school ever did get in trouble for using the term crackhead in school I wouldn't have a problem explaining life to school authorities either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aaron Gustaveson View Post
    just want to say Ric has always seemed like a cool guy and makes some really good post.
    Agree 100% great contributor to the forum I just don't want Eddie to be discouraged from coming up with the colorful and entertaining vocabulary. I also agree with Brandon about not wanting the pussification of America slipping into jiu jitsu. I used one of Zogs analogies to describe a technique In a class full of grown men not even any ladies present and a few guys laughed and the coach acknowledged that it was an effective analogy but inappropriate. The term was "making babies"
    ...give me a break how is that inappropriate in a room full of grown men learning moves that can kill?
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    Quote Originally Posted by David Rosado View Post
    Reading is fundamental. LOL. I explained. Any word that can get my kid in trouble in school is not a word that I'd like her repeating just yet.

    Not sure why people are getting so annoyed about it. Call it whatever you want. Teach your kids to curse if you want. But some people do have a preference. That's the beauty of America. I don't think it needs an official renaming, but I think it's fine to have an alternative for your own kids or a kids program you run. In fact, I do recall one of the moon heads mentioning that he does rename some moves for his kids program so it's not like this is some horribly far fetched absolutely bullshit idea. Haha. You'd swear 10thP were a religion or something.
    Of course, I do the same thing with our kids programs as well, I feels its a parents job to educate their kids on wonderful world of sex and drugs. However in my adult classes its NHB, like Jon said we are in the bussiness of teaching destruction, if you can't handle a little crackhead control, retard control or making babies get the fuck out I don't have time for your sensitivity. When it comes down to the reality of combat sports and self defense if words hurt you, you don't stand a chance of surving a real life violent encounter.


    Oh and Ric knows I have nothing but love him. Thats why I have no issue telling him to man up or I'll fill your kraken.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonathan Wylie View Post
    I did miss your post and understand not wanting certain words to enter your children's vocabulary I employ the same policy. ...and of course I agree people can call the techniques whatever they want and understand moon instructors changing the vocabulary for there kids classes to not offended parents and protect there business. But none of that explains how the word crackhead is offensive and if any of my kids 12, 8 and 5 none of which has ever had not one single disciplinary situation at school ever did get in trouble for using the term crackhead in school I wouldn't have a problem explaining life to school authorities either.
    Gotcha. Well, I'm currently living in socialist/liberal Massachusetts where political correctness is gospel to people and public school teachers teach that guns aren't real. SMH. I mean, even my daughter's mom gets antsy when I tell my daughter that guns aren't bad. Crackhead being a direct reference to drug addiction is a taboo word in my kid's school.

    In the end, really, context is key.


    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Herzog View Post
    Of course, I do the same thing with our kids programs as well, I feels its a parents job to educate their kids on wonderful world of sex and drugs. However it my adult classes its NHB, like Jon said we are in the bussiness of teaching destruction, if you can't handle a little crackhead control, retard control or making babies get the fuck out I don't have time for your sensitivity. When it comes down to the reality of combat sports and self defense if words hurt you, you don't stand a chance of surving a real life violent encounter.


    Oh and Ric knows I have nothing but love him. Thats why I have no issue telling him to man up or I'll fill your kraken.
    Exactly coach. Like you pointed out, context is key. And like I mentioned, an official renaming isn't really necessary.

    I was kinda just posting to let Ric know I understand his POV, but we really don't need an official rename. And personally, I'd feel like a bit of a sissy calling it kraken control to another grown man. LOL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David Rosado View Post

    I was kinda just posting to let Ric know I understand his POV, but we really don't need an official rename. And personally, I'd feel like a bit of a sissy calling it kraken control to another grown man. LOL.


    Good because if I hear you say it, your krack will be the next one filled in.
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