what!? palhares out of adcc now too?

[Jonathan Wylie]

Isn't Belcher in adcc this year?

[Mike Nall]

Palhares was never in. Don't believe what they say. They reported him out 2-3 months ago

"Latest word from the ADCC Committee has Rousimar "Toquinho" Palhares out of ADCC 2013. "Toquinho" was considered one of the favorites to take the U88KG division but apparently has gone AWOL and has not responded to any contacts from the competition. The Committee has already lined up a super worthy replacement for his spot."

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[Aaron Gustaveson]

he was invited, i dont know what happened, he doesnt seem to be in china right now. I'll ask him, he responds to email and twitter quickly.

Ive had a tough semester, havent kept up with stuff like normal, still havent seen glory 11.

[sean applegate]

Palhares was never in. Don't believe what they say. They reported him out 2-3 months ago

"Latest word from the ADCC Committee has Rousimar "Toquinho" Palhares out of ADCC 2013. "Toquinho" was considered one of the favorites to take the U88KG division but apparently has gone AWOL and has not responded to any contacts from the competition. The Committee has already lined up a super worthy replacement for his spot."

http://adcombat.com/kid-peligro-jiu-...-training-hard

Actually, palhares was 100% in. He was invited immediately after last years event since he took 2nd place. He confirmed and even was shaky about the Pierce fight because of it. It came down to priorities in the end. That's why he said adcc would have to sit backseat to his fight and that's why he waited to confirm a 2nd time.

[Ryan Brick]

Well its all opinion you guys choose to think he is a physcopath who gets thrills out of other peoples pain, i think 100% of his opponents would be injured if that were the case

His story was he thought the first tap was a punch so he cranked harder, i didnt notice him crank again after the ref jumped in... There is no way to prove his statement true or false

He was cut because he was unpopular if gsp started breaking heels people would just be excited he was finishing

As for the armbar vs heel hook argument, thats the same one i hear as to why neck cranks shouldnt be legal

Its all opinion and speculation

But to the point of the thread he is a fool for dropping out of adcc

Maybe he can fight in nick diaz promotions lol

[Aaron Gustaveson]

He was cut because he was unpopular if gsp started breaking heels people would just be excited he was finishing

I thought he was popular, idk (another faggy expression) im always out of touch with most mma fans, I cant belive TUF is what made the ufc popular, other than last season and jesamyn being on this season i fucking hate the bullshit reailty tv. Seems most fans want big guys trying to knock each other out, i couldnt care less about cain "dumbass tattoo" velasquez and dos santos, Even eddie says he wants to see violence and injury, i want to see highly skilled martial artist fight intelligent fights. I also thought most people hate gsp (and machida) shows what i know about the average mma fan.

thought the first tap was a punch? speechless.

[David Rosado]

Well its all opinion you guys choose to think he is a physcopath who gets thrills out of other peoples pain, i think 100% of his opponents would be injured if that were the case

His story was he thought the first tap was a punch so he cranked harder, i didnt notice him crank again after the ref jumped in... There is no way to prove his statement true or false

He was cut because he was unpopular if gsp started breaking heels people would just be excited he was finishing

As for the armbar vs heel hook argument, thats the same one i hear as to why neck cranks shouldnt be legal

Its all opinion and speculation

But to the point of the thread he is a fool for dropping out of adcc

Maybe he can fight in nick diaz promotions lol

100% of his opponents would be injured if he had his way.

His story is ridiculous. Even his former coach confirmed that he has a habit of injuring people. No way to prove him wrong, but plenty of evidence to suggest Palhares is full of BS.

He was cut because he was a liability. Any fans of GSP are fans because of his martial arts spirit. If he started pulling Palhares antics, he'd lose fans, get fined and suspended. That's cuz he's champ. If a non champ, say Wand, started doing it, no doubt he'd get cut too. Liabilities are bad for the sport and bad for business.

As for the armbar heel hook argument, it's more than speculation. Knee injuries are worse and require more rehab. Miesha Tate got her whole elbow dislocated and didn't even need a cast. Meanwhile Dominic Cruz blows his knee and is out for two years. This would lead to a logical conclusion that heel hooks are more dangerous than armbars.

It's waaaay more than opinion and speculation when facts and evidence are present.

[Isaac Atley]

100% of his opponents would be injured if he had his way.

His story is ridiculous. Even his former coach confirmed that he has a habit of injuring people. No way to prove him wrong, but plenty of evidence to suggest Palhares is full of BS.

He was cut because he was a liability. Any fans of GSP are fans because of his martial arts spirit. If he started pulling Palhares antics, he'd lose fans, get fined and suspended. That's cuz he's champ. If a non champ, say Wand, started doing it, no doubt he'd get cut too. Liabilities are bad for the sport and bad for business.

As for the armbar heel hook argument, it's more than speculation. Knee injuries are worse and require more rehab. Miesha Tate got her whole elbow dislocated and didn't even need a cast. Meanwhile Dominic Cruz blows his knee and is out for two years. This would lead to a logical conclusion that heel hooks are more dangerous than armbars.

It's waaaay more than opinion and speculation when facts and evidence are present.

i agree with you dude i jsut want to point out that dominic also ahd a failed surgery and thts why he has been out for so long. cat zingano or gsp himself might be better examples.

to ryan its the fact that there arnt any pain receptors (or at msot only a few) that makes it so dangerous, because you dont feel it in the knee first but thats what goes first and why it gets damged more. i know youre probably aware of that but no one seems to have brought it up.

i myself have been out for almost three months because my knee was on the way to being torn (so loose, it wouldve torn if i wasnt careful)

and i dont think wanderlei would e cut right away. thing is in this case that palhares is a repeat offender, added into intent and its the fact that he cranked after the ref stopped it. 2 times in the ufc and once in adcc.

and as far as teh he thought pierce was punchign him not tapping. i also heard him give his side fo story but he said that the ref was stopping pierce from holding the fence when he put the submission on and because pierce ahd jsut gotten out of the sub before that he knew he had to hold it tight and then he said that pierce tapped the ref and not palhares but by then pierce ahd tapped palhares more than 3 times on his leg and the ref had gone from one side of the cage (stopping pierce from holding the cage to palhares' other side and fallen on palhares and grabbed his arms to stop the sub. swiss cheese has less holes in it thatn that story.

and with ronda i think its more the fact that once she gets the armbar, youre probly not gunna get out of it, shes shown that shes got control, she cranks it hard but stops when shes meant to, thats skill not being a roided up idiot.

[Aaron Gustaveson]

Isn't Belcher in adcc this year?

he had visa issues, the nwo didn't want him to go.