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    Magnets!

    Guys look this dude up! Heard eddie talk about magnets n shit on jre this will blow your shit. Eddie described kinda what this dude was talkin bout in early 1900. He was 100 lb man who was able to cut and quarry tons of pound of coral rock but he only did it at night and no one found out how he did it. He said he found the secret of the Egyptians lol and it was all through magnets. Edward Leedskalnin is his name. Check him out ! Lemme know what you guys think?!

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    Leedskalnin's other four pamphlets addressed his theories on the interaction of electricity, magnetism and the body; Leedskalnin also included a number of simple experiments to validate his theories.

    Contradicting the standard model of electromagnetism, his thesis is based upon the theory that the metal itself is not the magnet and that the real magnets are circulating in the metal. These individual north and south pole magnets are particles smaller than atoms or photons and each particle in the substance was an individual magnet by itself.[citation needed]

    Leedskalnin claimed that all matter was being acted upon by what he called "individual magnets". He also claimed that scientists of his time were looking in the wrong place for their understanding of electricity and that they were only observing "one half of the whole concept" with "one sided tools of measurement". For instance:

    Magnets in general are indestructible. For instance you can burn wood and flesh. You can destroy the body, but you cannot destroy the magnets that hold together the body. They go somewhere else. Iron has more magnets than wood, and every different substance has a different number of magnets that hold the substance together. If I make a battery with copper for positive terminal and beef for negative terminal I get more magnets out of it than when I used copper for positive terminal and sweet potato for negative terminal. From this you can see that no two things are alike.[3]

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    I was just watching some videos about Leedskalnin today, actually. I would love for someone to get to the bottom of his techniques, because his Coral Castle is very impressive. I would not be surprised if his strategy for moving those thirty ton blocks was very similar to those used in Egypt, Peru, Lebanon, etc. It kills me not to know! lol

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    I i felt like Eddie must have already understood electro-repulsion somewhat, otherwise hes an accidental fucking Einstein. This is stuff we are taught in general chemistry, not everyone gets the trippier implications of it but yeas at the molecular level matter is mostly empty space (even more so at the atomic level) and it is something similar to electromagnetism that is largely reasonable for determining how two non-chemically reactive compounds interact ie touching a table and perceiving your hand and the table top as "solid". Basically to slightly over simplify it the electrons in the orbits of the tabletop atoms and the elec- of your "hand atoms" are repulsing each other.

    Sometimes an incomplete understanding of these things can lead to stupid shit like; people talking in new hippy-dippy language about vibrations or frequency all the time after they hear a cartoony exploitation of string theory.
    GO SHARKS!

    "A conspiracy theorist is a person who tacitly admits that they have insufficient data to prove their points. A conspiracy theory is a battle cry of a person with insufficient data." Neil DeGrasse Tyson

    If this shit turns out to be true, I will get a tattoo of a crop duster spelling out the phrase, "Eddie was right!"

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    btw Leedskalnin was right in a way, not mathematically, and it turned out not to be eletromagnatism exactly but a force that we can best understand using similar terms with charges and such. Its called strong force or strong interaction.

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    if the Leedskalnin guy is the same guy im thinking of, some kids snuck up on him while he was constructing coral castle, and saw that he had a tripod with a black box on top, no one has ever recovered said box

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    Yeah, same dude. but those kids were probably high as hell!

    http://www.leedskalnin.com/LeedskalninsWritings.html

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    is anyone here smart enough to tell me if this does defy the basic laws of physics? because it seems legit to me. the perpetual motion holder

    http://www.leedskalnin.com/Leedskaln...ionHolder.html

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    i think its more about educated enough rather than smart enough, one thing is, i go straight for the proof of concept, which they have a link for but in no way is there a proof of concept, have to go back to his 1886 abstract that someone turned into a paper and published, to get some background, http://www.leedskalnin.com/electricsea.pdf. I dont have enough background in physics but it all sound plausible at a glance, I like how explaining electric current with basically particle theory as opposed to wave theory allows him to apply laws normally used for planetary scale object like Keplers laws but something tells me that's not legit. We already accept particle wave duality and that as current flows a field is created that is basically a double helix in shape, in current electromagnetic theory.

    One thing i dont see and dont believe Leedskalnin would have claimed is how his view of electricity and magnetism would negate the concept of entropy, yes you could make "perpetual" motion machines that use the properties of magnets and work for many years and many people have. My father and I designed one that was a pendulum electromagnet combo device. Eventual the magnets lose charge/ the system runs into an energy deficit. Even if you were to directly harness the strong force interactions of an atom, it is not infinite.

    It is interesting but the whole thing loses a lot of credibility based on what they say about books and teachers. My professors often tell us "I didn't have to learn this when I took this class because we didn't know it yet" Everyone in the higher levels of academia knows that books are not an end all be all, they all have errors or out of date info and are subject to the capitalist machine that produces them. Book are not heavily relied upon in upper division major classes in the sciences, they are usually suggested to have but you rarely even open them, science moves faster than text book publication often. If this guy experienced university professors that are stuck back with the books they used 25 years ago, they went to a shitty school that is an odd exception. (or far more likely have never gone to college at all) The professors he describes would never survive peer review if they did publish but probably would not publish and thus perish and be relegated to christian schools.

    Notice the dotcom address.
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    man i was too stuck in currently accepted theory when i read over that, i thought he was saying something else, what he is actually saying is more like magic than physics, im looking for his actual writing to see if he has any math or repeated experiments to back this up but I seriously doubt it.

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    i read the first 38 pages of his main work on magnetism. Its is very easy reading, smart guy, admirable interst in the natural world but he didnt have the education to refute or explain why the math that united electricity and magnetism is incorrect nor could he demonstrate with math or experiment anything other than his lack of access to scanning electron microscopes or the scientific journals of his time. He never touches how electromagnetism as a unified theory so perfectly fits experimental observation and application of theory, i think we'd all agree that since the invention of the radio we've done a lot in the field of electromagnetism based on accepted theory. Much more importantly he make no attempt to explain these observation in terms of his own theory. Why? With the radio around electromagnetism was damn near a pop culture thing for people to experiment with at that time.

    He didn't understand experimental design. He used hillbilly experimentation to make observation and then explained them with hand-waving and misapplied jargon. I find him and his story extremely interesting as little peek into a time and place in Americas history but he was a scientist like the grandma from Beverly hillbillies was a doctor.
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