Forks over knives documentary

[Jonathan Wylie]

Cows routinely pumped full of synthetic growth hormones, antibiotics, and eating pesticide filled GMO food, cant be good.

Agreed.

[Aaron Gustaveson]

I wonder how well Eskimos would do on a meat free diet?

Who here has a background in physical anthropology and biochemistry and can actually understand the implications of these diets beyond a surface/word of mouth level?

Almost everything we consider food can have negative consequences if consumed in excess. Genetics play a big part of what a health diet is for each individual.

I cant/no one can say what is an optimum human diet, and not only because it varies for individuals, i can say that the documentary is not based on strong science.

They cite poorly conducted, non-repeated experiments many times such as with the study done on rats fed casein protein, the low protein rats died prematurely, perhaps not allowing cancer to manifest and in part to their low protein diets. There were other problems with this one as well.

They cited the study on monkeys without even understanding the results;

“Monkeys on low protein diet surviving for 90 weeks or more show foci of preneoplastic lesions, whereas those on high protein diet reveal no such alterations at the corresponding time interval…It appears that in the simian model used by us, the liver injury caused by [aflatoxin] is accentuated by simultaneous restriction of dietary protein and in animals on such combined regimen preneoplastic lesions appear around 90 weeks of experiment. These observations suggest a synergism between protein calorie malnutrition and aflatoxin induced hepatocarcinogenesis and may explain the higher incidence of hepatocellular carcinoma in certain areas of the world where contamination of foods with aflatoxin and malnutrition are prevalent.”

The doc is bullshit but some of what they are saying may not be, hard to separate when they purposely mislead the audience to suite their agenda. (either that or none of them can understand scientific publications)

I could go on. You can be healthy on a wide variety of diets. The way we raise most of our meat is not environmentally ethical, that in my eyes is a much greater concern than the health consequences of reasonably consuming it based on my understanding of biology.

We dont fucking know what to eat, probably because we want to believe there is one optimum diet for all of us.
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/liv...st.person.kcal

[Jonathan Wylie]

Right the high protein fed rats lived with liver cancer and the low protein fed rats died early from liver necrosis it must be hard for cancer to develop in the liver when the liver is dying.

[John Mejia]

#meateaterforlife

#TeachMeToHuntBear

[Tori Applegate]

I've also been wanting to greatly reduce the amount of meat I eat but it's not all up to me. I have a fiancé and we both have to agree on the changes. She eats pretty well like info already but trying to convince her to make a more drastic change is semi difficult. Not that I would go vegan but reduce it by a lot.

If y'all are getting married soon, def clean up the diet! Lol, being with a man that does Jiu Jitsu..you have to be supportive. Time to cut weight? Vegan time! Big competition, could bulk up a little, doing way more physically than normal? Still very healthy, but lighter meats are ok! That's how it is at our place, just depends on what's up. I'm sure she will get it and at least try to not eat bad around you if you tell her! Even when I didn't do JJ I didn't eat bad in front of Sean if we were supposed to be dieting or w.e. He knew I'm sure, but I did try.

You can be healthy on a wide variety of diets. The way we raise most of our meat is not environmentally ethical, that in my eyes is a much greater concern than the health consequences of reasonably consuming it based on my understanding of biology.

We dont fucking know what to eat, probably because we want to believe there is one optimum diet for all of us.

I agree, like I said above..really depends on what you have going on.

[Aaron Gustaveson]

lol, yeah. im not saying that the point they were trying to put forward is incorrect, there might be good data out their to support their ideas, they just didn't use any. To be fair its an entertainment doc not a paper publish for peer review but . .

[Mike Dewitt Jr]

Loved the movie, haven't got to a point in my life I can firmly be vegan but I know when my health goes I'm going vegan lol