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    Quote Originally Posted by brianspinaltap View Post
    Damn, and I thought the IBJJF rule set was bad enough. Legal system fail.
    lol!

    Quote Originally Posted by David Rosado View Post
    I read the rape description. My guess is that Maldonado convinced the jury the sex was consensual until Schultz got involved. Even the girls police report mentions that she only named Schultz and Schultz threw Maldonado under the bus after. IMO they're both rapists. Apparently Schultz is still awaiting a verdict. So I'm using my basic few college years of criminal justice to guess how this happened despite video evidence.

    I left that major for things like this. I can't get around the abuse of technicalities. It's too frustrating.
    Why would she only have named one of them? Was it actually consensual (in her eyes) with Maldonado? Wasn't he there when Schultz started abusing her? That's got to be a crime on it own, right? This is disgusting!

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    Has anyone on here seen the footage? Links??
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    after reading the description linked above, i dont think could watch the video.

    Its probably not released because the trial is still going on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aaron Gustaveson View Post
    lol!



    Why would she only have named one of them? Was it actually consensual (in her eyes) with Maldonado? Wasn't he there when Schultz started abusing her? That's got to be a crime on it own, right? This is disgusting!
    It makes me kind of uncomfortable going through the details, but from what I recall (I don't wanna read it again), Maldonado and the victim were going at it and then Schultz grabbed her head and....yeah. Maldonado exited the scene for a while then. Schultz was trying to run train.

    I hate throwing around PC chic slogans like "rape culture" but sadly, that is the case. Our society generally victim blames. She shouldn't have been drunk. If she wasnt' so drunk, she wouldn't have gotten raped. They were both drunk so it was ok. She's not a victim, she's just a "freak." Phrases like these are actually believed by people.


    Now if I'm playing defense attorney, I'd run that angle. "She only named one assailant and described the ordeal in detail. My client exited the scene once the other party joined. It was my client's belief that the intercourse was consensual between all three parties and only left because he isn't into three ways. This is why he returned later. Why is it that the victim only named one person? Because that one person didn't have permission. My client did." I'm just thinking like a sleazy defense atty.

    Why did she only name one guy? From the info I gather, she was black out drunk. It's been a while since I've been black out drunk, but I don't black out 100% and remember nothing. I slip in and out remembering bits and pieces. It's possible she only slipped in and out of consciousness during Schluts' actions since he was the one spending the most time violating.

    Could she have thought the sex was consensual between her and Maldonado? Shit, maybe. Maybe she liked him and she was feeling him. Drunken consensual sex does happen. But the reason why I still believe Maldonado should be on the hook is because.....even if it was consensual to begin with.....once Schultz got involved, and you just left her to be raped....first you're an accessory....second, you KNOW she's being raped and you LEAVE her and then COME BACK?!!!! Sorry, but giving Maldonado the biggest benefit of the doubt doesn't excuse him. Even if it started consensual, his continued actions put even blame on him for the ordeal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eddie Bravo View Post
    Has anyone on here seen the footage? Links??
    From what I know, there's no online access to the video. But the description is bad enough.

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    wish more guys like you actually did become lawyers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aaron Gustaveson View Post
    wish more guys like you actually did become lawyers.
    I appreciate the sentiment. Sadly at that point in my life I didn't have the heart (too emotional of a thinker) or the funds to continue. But seriously, some shit made me just wanna become a vigilante. The corruption and abuse of technicalities is so ridiculous.

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    The American Revolution was ushered in by a band of vigilantes...jus sayin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eddie Bravo View Post
    Has anyone on here seen the footage? Links??
    Usually video evidence of rape footage captured by cell phones or surveillance cameras is not made public. This is largely to protect the identity of the victim. I don't know if it will ever be public.

    I do know that the description of the video has been reported by the multiple people inside the court room, and it matches up with the detailed version of events here in the police report:

    http://www.fightopinion.com/2013/01/...students-rape/

    "The Complainant stated that once in the garage area, Defendant Schultz forced her to the ground and that while on her knees, he placed his penis in her mouth. The Complainant stated that while on the ground, Defendant Schultz had vaginal intercourse with her. The Complainant described the events by stating Defendant Schultz used his “private parts” to smack her across her face and also stuck his “private parts” in her “private area” and in her mouth. The Complainant stated that during the course of the sexual assault she asked Defendant Schultz to stop. However, Defendant Schultz continued to have sexual intercourse with her against her will and without her permission. During the sexual assault, the Complainant sustained injuries to her face, arms, hands and knees. The Complainant stated that Defendant Schultz did not use a condom and she does not know if he ejaculated. The Complainant stated that after the assault, Defendant Schultz told her, “I’m sorry. I’m a sick bastard.” The Complainant stated that she does not recall if Defendant Maldonado had sexual intercourse with her. The Complainant does recall that Defendant Maldonado walked into the garage with her and Defendant Schultz and that he left the garage area before Defendant Schultz.

    Addition information was discovered pertaining to the sexual assault of the Complainant. Further investigation revealed that the Complainant along with Defendants Schultz and Maldonado all walked into the garage driveway together. The garage driveway is located adjacent to 1725 Rhode Island Avenue, NW but is attached to the building located at 1717 Rhode Island Ave. NW. A security surveillance camera affixed to the ceiling captured the three of them as they walked into the garage driveway and out of the public’s view. The Complainant appeared to be staggering as defendant Maldonado walked next to her into the area with his arm around her. Defendant Maldonado appeared to be holding the Complainant up. Once inside of the location, Defendants Schultz and Maldonado then walked the Complainant to the far right corner of the garage driveway and positioned themselves and the Complainant next to the garage entrance gate.

    While standing next to the gate, Defendant Maldonado stood behind the Complainant and began to undo his pants. Defendant Maldonado then pulled his pants down, grabbed the Complainant around her waist and began to have sexual intercourse with the Complainant. While Defendant Maldonado was engaging in sexual intercourse with the Complainant, Defendant Schultz began to undo his pants. Defendant Schultz then grabbed the Complainant by her hair and forced her head down to his crotch area to perform oral sex on him. This activity continued on for several minutes, after which Defendant Maldonado disengaged. The Complainant then fell to the ground, at which time Defendant Maldonado pulled his pants up and walked away, leaving Defendant Schultz and the Complainant at the location.

    After defendant Maldonado’s departure, defendant Schultz stayed behind and continued to force the Complainant to perform oral sex. The Complainant then fell to her knees, at which time defendant Schultz also got on his knees, positioned himself behind the Complainant and began to have sexual intercourse with her while grabbing and holding the Complainant by her waist. While continuing to engage in sexual intercourse with the Complainant, Defendant Schultz then grabbed the Complainant around her neck in a choke hold. Defendant Schultz then stood up and walked to the front of the Complainant at which time he again got on his knees. Defendant Schultz then began to force the Complainant’s head down to his crotch to force her to perform oral sex.

    Defendant Schultz then began to try and hold on to the Complainant, at which time her head dropped to the ground. Defendant Schultz again grabbed the Complainant by her head, forcing it down to his crotch to force her to perform oral sex. Defendant Schultz also began to grab the Complainant around her neck, and began forcing her head in an up and down motion on his penis. Defendant Schultz then grabbed the Complainant around her throat to kiss her, at which time she fell backwards striking her head against the wall. Defendant Schultz then grabbed the Complainant and pulled her close towards him. Defendant Schultz continued to hold onto the Complainant until she fell backwards and struck her head again on the wall, with Defendant Schultz falling on top of her.

    The Complainant then pushed Defendant Schultz off her as her body slumped to the ground with her head still against the wall. Defendant Schultz then advanced toward the Complainant and began to lie on top of her. Defendant Schultz again pulled the Complainant towards him, holding on to her until her body collapsed again, this time her head striking the ground. Defendant Schultz then leaned his body on top of the Complainant and began to kiss on her body as she lay defenseless on the ground. Defendant Schultz stopped momentarily, looking around the corner and returned to kissing the Complainant on her body. Defendant Schultz stopped and looked around the corner a second time as Defendant Maldonado returned to the location. As the Complainant continued to lie on the ground, Defendant Maldonado stood over her while Defendant Schultz continued to kneel beside her motionless body. Defendant Maldonado then began to back away as he watched Defendant Schultz lie on top of the Complainant again.

    Defendant Schultz then grabbed the Complainant again and forced her head to his penis area. Again, the Complainant collapsed to the ground. Defendant Schultz then leaned back and removed his penis from his pants. He then grabbed the Complainant’s head and leaned into her face, forcing his penis into her mouth. Defendant Schultz then grabbed the Complainant again and began to kiss her about the body. Defendant Schultz again grabbed the Complainant’s head as she continued to lie on the ground and leaned into her face, forcing his penis into her mouth. Defendant Schultz repeated this activity multiple times as the Complainant lie defenseless on the ground. Defendant Schultz then straddled the Complainant’s body as he struck her multiple times in the face with his penis. The Complainant began to move her arm and legs, at which time Defendant Schultz got off of her.

    Defendant Schultz then attempted to lift the Complainant off the ground but was unsuccessful as her unconscious body collapsed, causing her to hit her head on the ground. Defendant Schultz then stepped away from the Complainant and began to refasten his shirt and pants. Defendant Schultz then knelt beside the Complainant and lifted her forward. Defendant Schultz then placed his body against the Complainant and continued to hold her as he had her body bent forward. Defendant Schultz again tried several more times to lift the Complainant’s unconscious body but was unsuccessful as she collapsed each time.

    Unable to get the Complainant to stand up, Defendant Schultz placed her unconscious body against the garage door gate as she sat on the ground, at which time he sat down beside her. Defendant Schultz tried several times to lean in towards the Complainant but she was able to push him away. Unable to remain sitting up, the Complainant eventually fell over on her left side. Defendant Schultz remained seated on the ground and began to lean over her. Defendant Schultz tried one last time to lift the Complainant to her feet, to no avail. The Complainant’s unconscious body once again collapsed to the ground causing her to strike her head against the wall. Defendant Schultz then stood up and walked away, leaving the Complainant lying alone on the ground. The Complainant lied on the ground for several minutes before being discovered by the Witness, who called 911. The Complainant was transported to Washington Hospital Center by DC EMT Ambulance #26 and a SANE examination was conducted."

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    This just in Matthew Maldanado will be facing Rousimar Palhares at the Jiu Jitsu Expo in a warm up match, Extended Heel Hooks are completely legal and Maldanado will not be allowed the use of his arms. All in all sounds like a fair match. But all serious if I ever competed against either of them, I would hold it till it falls off or they see angels. Fuck those two pieces of worthless garbage.

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