Awesome back take from kimura by Rafa Mendes

[RAMOS]

Hafa,... I likes uh datch guy

[Brent Smith]

Never heard of him

[Kurzy]

Nope, that guys a turd and I , in no way, endorse him or anything he's done

Other than his old connections with LI, what has he done to be a turd?
I thought he seemed like a nice guy with killer technique and cheesy marketing approaches.

[ScottRay]

Other than his old connections with LI, what has he done to be a turd?
I thought he seemed like a nice guy with killer technique and cheesy marketing approaches.

I'm pretty sure he was saying that Floyd Pervin is the turd, not rafa? I could be wrong about what he meant, but I'm defiantly not about Floyd Pervin being a turd! Lol

Much as I HATE their marketing and all that is TLI, I actually use some of this kimura stuff.

[Jack LaBarge]

Other than his old connections with LI, what has he done to be a turd?
I thought he seemed like a nice guy with killer technique and cheesy marketing approaches.

TURD!!!

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2013/7/25...vin/in/3625585

[ScottRay]

TURD!!!

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2013/7/25...vin/in/3625585

The "average" Jack LaBarge post is EPIC at worst.. Seriously. Forum all star.

[Brent Smith]

I'm pretty sure he was saying that Floyd Pervin is the turd, not rafa? I could be wrong about what he meant, but I'm defiantly not about Floyd Pervin being a turd! Lol

Much as I HATE their marketing and all that is TLI, I actually use some of this kimura stuff.

Pretty sure he was calling Avalon a turd

[sean applegate]

Yea, Lloyd Irvin is a turd for sure. I was talking about David. This guy makes a DVD, up sells the crap out of it, way over charges for it, then, when the crap hits the fan with tli, he comes out and says he made that video in a couple hours in his school with one of his students. There are some pretty silly, gimmicky techs on his vids. There is some good stuff, but it's all recycled stuff. Chris Brennan put out a DVD a while back that has all the good stuff without any of the gimmicks. I'm sure there are more instructionals out there on the kimura game, Brennan's is just the best one I have found.

[Brent Smith]

Yea, Lloyd Irvin is a turd for sure. I was talking about David. This guy makes a DVD, up sells the crap out of it, way over charges for it, then, when the crap hits the fan with tli, he comes out and says he made that video in a couple hours in his school with one of his students. There are some pretty silly, gimmicky techs on his vids. There is some good stuff, but it's all recycled stuff. Chris Brennan put out a DVD a while back that has all the good stuff without any of the gimmicks. I'm sure there are more instructionals out there on the kimura game, Brennan's is just the best one I have found.

I wasnt impressed with the Kimura Trap DVD at all. Glad I didnt pay for it