and it all comes crumbling down.......Team Lloyd Pervin

[Kyle Spalla]

I am happy his association has suffered and he should be in jail. That's all I got.

[Sam Sales]

For what? Your observation mirrored mine. Should I be sorry too? I don't think so.
Sam has been emotionally invested in the LI Saga since it broke. The threads show it.

Because it was ignored by the jiu jitsu community for so long. He was still sitting pretty running an academy and spamming his crappy products like nothing had happened.
Am I supposed to be sorry about caring for the welfare of children? Especially in a run down area like Maryland where it's easy for a guy like Lloyd to take advantage.
Or should I just bury my head in the sand or spend every single day talking about nutritional cleansing or Herbalife or some other crap instead?

Whatever. Not apologizing for being passionate about this. Fuck me, if the protection of children isn't something to be passionate about I don't know what is.

Hope we are still cool Bobby. My apologies too. Can be a hotheaded SoB at times.

e2a - sorry, I am just loving this moment. Until a few days ago only 1 mma media member (Brent Brookhouse) had reported on it. Now this Rossen dude done this huge story. Also Luke Thomas and others have been talking about it on twitter and retweeting the story etc. Its FINALLY happening. The end is near. Lloyd won't be able to exploit or make money in the martial arts community much longer. Hopefully his academy will close soon so he wont be around kids. Then hopefully DJ Jackson has to go back home and answer to the sex offence crimes he is guilty of too.

e2a2 - yes Scott Ray deserves the credit for the Lloyd Pervin thing haha

[bobby rivers]

Yes, we are cool.

Or should I just bury my head in the sand or spend every single day talking about nutritional cleansing or Herbalife or some other crap instead?

Now you fuck off. Kurz actually turned his life around and wants to help others do the same. It is people he knows personally and he will actually get in contact with them and help them do it. America is fat and it a n epidemic, so his cause has nobility as well. Not my style, but again, to each his own.

Will you actually go picket LI? Oh, too far? Too expensive? Inconvenient? But, the children!

If you think jj has ignored LI since this has been outed you know shit about jj. Then how did you find out about it? Personal source? Doubt it. The criminal justice system is the failure here, the media ran with the story just like they do every scandal. Its not that I don't agree with you, its how you present your arguments and threads on LI. Truth is all we get is second hand info. The people who were there know and are speaking out. There is an orgy of evidence that confirms he is a self delusioned, megalomaniacal predator. This is typical Oj/Trayvon/Paula Dean. The shit happens everyday, everywhere, but this is the one that matters for some reason. Like I said if you have a crusade to fight, this one worth you're time. But all you've done is post and rant, then attacked anyone who questioned you. We can disagree here without slinging shit.

You're responses to questions is why I asked the question. Told me a lot.

[Sam Sales]

Yes, we are cool.



Now you fuck off. Kurz actually turned his life around and wants to help others do the same. It is people he knows personally and he will actually get in contact with them and help them do it. America is fat and it a n epidemic, so his cause has nobility as well. Not my style, but again, to each his own.

Will you actually go picket LI? Oh, too far? Too expensive? Inconvenient? But, the children!

If you think jj has ignored LI since this has been outed you know shit about jj. Then how did you find out about it? Personal source? Doubt it. The criminal justice system is the failure here, the media ran with the story just like they do every scandal. Its not that I don't agree with you, its how you present your arguments and threads on LI. Truth is all we get is second hand info. The people who were there know and are speaking out. There is an orgy of evidence that confirms he is a self delusioned, megalomaniacal predator. This is typical Oj/Trayvon/Paula Dean. The shit happens everyday, everywhere, but this is the one that matters for some reason. Like I said if you have a crusade to fight, this one worth you're time. But all you've done is post and rant, then attacked anyone who questioned you. We can disagree here without slinging shit.

You're responses to questions is why I asked the question. Told me a lot.

yeah I admit, that comment was below the belt Kurzy regarding the nutritional cleansing thing. Apologies. My opinion and post beyond that I am not sorry for though.

If it wasn't for people like Georgette Oden and a few others (Ryan Hall, Brent Brookhouse) I think people would still not know. Especially newbies. Just my opinion.

Like I said earlier if 2 posts in 4 months is 'spending all my time on here hating on Lloyd' then so be it. I better not mention Rampage (I dislike him) 3 times in 4 months or you 2 will think I am on another hate crusade!

[Chris Herzog]

[bobby rivers]

Commencing off fucking. Engage.

[bobby rivers]

Especially Lloyd Pervin.

[Mike Nall]

Here's the cover for the article. It's getting national syndication.

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[David Rosado]

nice.

[Luis Candelas, BCG]

The only thing I have to say about this topic: We should continue talking about it so that people in our community will not forget. We don't want the evil empire to rise again.