My answer to 'Sub Only vs Points'

[Aaron Gustaveson]

I understand Rose is cool and the format is better than any other major tournament but personally I could never do it. It would be a shorter list to just list what subs are allowed. WTF does NO neck locks mean? Honestly when I watch comp vids, Im normally more impressed that people can remember the rules set while competing than anything else. I would have to relearn grappling to enter this.

ADULT White Belt ILLEGAL SUBMISSIONS

- NO Wrist Lock of any kind.
- NO Foot Locks or Straight Ankle Locks or Leg Locks of any kind.
- NO Knee Locks or Knee Bars of any kind.
- NO Bicep Slicer, No Calf Slicer and No Compression Locks of any kind.
- NO Calf Lock of any kind.
- NO Electric Chair Submissions.
- NO Twister Submissions.
- NO Twisting Leg Locks of any kind (heel hooks, toe holds, inverted heel hooks and inverted toe holds).
- NO Reaping the Knee.
- NO Cervical Lock of any kind.
- NO Neck Cranks or Frontal Neck Cranks of any kind.
- NO Neck Locks of any kind.
- NO Scissors Takedown of any kind.
- NO Chin whips
- NO knuckles on throat

ADULT Blue and Purple Belt ILLEGAL SUBMISSIONS

- NO Twisting Leg Locks of any kind (heel hooks, toe holds, inverted heel hooks and inverted toe holds).
- NO Reaping the Knee.
- NO Cervical Lock of any kind.
- NO Neck Cranks or Frontal Neck Crank of any kind.
- NO Neck Locks of any kind.
- NO Scissors Takedown of any kind.
- NO Chin whips
- NO knuckles on throat.

ADULT Brown and Black Belt ILLEGAL SUBMISSIONS

- NO Cervical Lock of any kind.
- NO Neck Cranks or Frontal Neck Cranks of any kind.
- NO Neck Locks of any kind.
- NO Scissors Takedown of any kind.
- NO Chin whips
- NO knuckles on throat

[Andrew Sarasin]

that's a great idea. Semms simple and it could work.

Now many of you believe that the 'submission only' format is the better alternative to the 'points' system that a majority of tournaments run. The logic behind it is that someone is going to take risks and actively pursue a submission, due to the risk of not advancing through the brackets. However not all people share this mindset, as a guy who's getting smashed will usually turtle up and settle for the draw. What if a stud goes against some guy that just plays defensive the entire match?

Here is my answer to the submission vs points debate; points with incentives. If there are 6 or more guys in your division, the 'group stage' system will be implemented. Competitors will be split into however many groups with the top seed of each group advancing to the single elimination tournament bracket. If there are less than 6 guys in your division, the 'round robin' system will be implemented. Submission victories are worth 3 points, decision wins will get you 1 point, draws leave both guys with 0 points, while losses subtract a point from your total score.

This way the urgency to get the submission is still there and your hundred dollar registration will guarantee you more than one match.

[Andrew Sarasin]

Sounds like Pride a bit. Soccer as well I guess. Whatever can make it more exciting.

Gracie Nationals format with yellow cards for stalling. 3 cards and you are Dq'd. :-)