does anyone body triangle in guard while going for a guilotine?

[Isaac Atley]

as the title says. does anyone do this? does it work?

[Kyle Spalla]

I think it opens you to get slammed from the guard if you already have the neck I dont see why you couldnt finish from full guard.

[Isaac Atley]

I think it opens you to get slammed from the guard if you already have the neck I dont see why you couldnt finish from full guard.

but in a jits tournament? where you cant slam? im just thinking because of the whole doing it from the back and constricting their breathing a bit more. and it also makes it harder to pass. sometimes you dont always have the neck as muc as you want.

[Kyle Spalla]

I feel like I have better control from full guard. If you have a good squeeze with your arms and legs I don't see why it wouldn't work for either method. I just feel using the body triangle in guard is adding a step.

[Kevin Gibbs]

My opinion, If you own the neck it isn't necessary. If you only partially have the neck the ability to stay mobile and change angles will help more than the squeeze of a body triangle.

[scottross]

It sounds like you think the point of the legs is to squeeze your opponent and push him away from you. Not true. If anything, you would use your closed guard to pull your opponent forward so you could adjust his head to where you wanted it on the side of your ribs. After that, you can use the legs to pull yourself up an inch to provide an extra bit of twist when you corkscrew the guillotine to the side.

So no, no body triangle.

[Craig Feldman]

way too much work in my opinion. no arm marcelo style guillotine from butterflies or foot up back and one across stomach or on hip works best keeps their hips away and head sunk deeper in the choke

[JoeO'Laughlin]

My opinion, If you own the neck it isn't necessary. If you only partially have the neck the ability to stay mobile and change angles will help more than the squeeze of a body triangle.

agree with kevin!

[Isaac Atley]

thanks guys, i dont do this, it just popped in my head and i couldnt think of a reason why not. now i can

[Ryan Brick]

As scott pointed out the finish for the guillotine isnt based on the squeeze of your guard and it may be hard to lock the neck if you already have the body triangle.... But I think if you wrapped the neck right and were still squeezing his neck the right way that it wouldnt hurt. A crushing pain around his midsection will make him think twice about trying to struggle out for the last few seconds before you get the tap/he goes out.

It ist necessary to get the tap and if you got short legs or else your opponent is wide... It would be hard to lock it.