Originally Posted by
Scott Ray
Yes, the person can turn into him because his HIP and shoulder are incorrect...
I also disagree with the "fast and scary". No offense, I love you to death..
But I don't think a leg lock should be different than any other sub. We don't need to be fast and scary on other subs because they are control positions. Dead zones. Why is the philosophy different for leg locks? Why can't we use superior control and technique, instead of trying to snatch up footlocks "catch" style, with no control, hoping he doesn't roll out before I can damage his leg. The knot is a control position, a dead zone. Our philosophy on leg locks is the same with all subs.. Control position, control the dead zone, then take submission. This is 10p standard philosophy.
I don't think you read my post correctly. It says I want to combine "fast and scary" with Herzog's philosophies, which are heavily control based. Or maybe you aren't well studied on Herzog's thoughts on the subject. I should have clarified, I guess. But I assumed that since we are on the leg lock thread you knew what I was talking about when I wrote that.
Regarding "fast and scary," I think it's a strong idea. We aren't only attacking the body. Fighting is as much psychological as physical; perhaps even more, one could argue. If I can cause you to panic and react poorly, I am at a great advantage moving forward. Or if I can put you out of position and force you to play from behind and expend energy, my chances of overcoming you are increased exponentially.
If you don't think a Marcelotine is fast and scary, you ain't doin it right. Look at Orchard play; he jumps on rolling Kimuras fast and scary. And he's my hero, so don't say anything bad about Orchard or I will do bad things to your family.
Playing fast and scary doesn't necessarily mean that one should attack with disregard for position or attack from a position of disadvantage. Attack quickly. Force a poor reaction from your opponent. Take advantage of his poor reaction, either with a kill, sweep or advancement of position. That sounds like a solid plan to me.
And regarding that Capoeira pass, I'm willing to bet Bodycomb does it well. He prob just prefers that inverted heel hook attack.
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