Some dude claiming I am his manager, hilarious

[Josh Smith]

I did give this guy every opportunity to lie to me before I revealed my identity. So I can vouch for that. He seemed to be really upset that someone would misconstrue his words like that. I am the one that told him that he should come on here himself and make things right! I told him that out 10thplanet family on here was open-minded and accepting of others, please dint make me out to be a liar (because I tell people that on a daily basis). So if anyone is gonna bash anyone, then bash me for telling him to get on here cuz I can take the blows. With that being said, it takes a real man to step up and try to salvage his reputation when it's being accepted by everyone that he's mis-representing. I honestly didn't think he was going to get on here and he proved me wrong so for that, I respect him. We're all human and we all make mistakes and redcloud is obviously having to clean up the mess for someone who made a pretty big fucking mistake. We all know what misrepresenting gets you amongst the 10th Planet community. Give the guy a break (about this subject at least). However, I would like to know about the BJJ black belt myself?

[Jeff V]

anyone looking for reference of how this whole thing got started can find it here.

http://www.mixedmartialarts.com/mma....thread=1726099

[AJ Camacho]

anyone looking for reference of how this whole thing got started can find it here.

http://www.mixedmartialarts.com/mma....thread=1726099

dude.... what's up with the belt?

[Compella]

This stood out to me on the UG thread:

"Triton (Piet Wilhelm). I fought Red Cloud a few years ago when I was a BJJ purple belt. Red was talking smack about my camp, my students, me, and my family. A promoter heard about this LOCAL drama and offered the fight. I told my training partners and students that my goal was not to tap him but to beat his face into the mat. I wanted the fight to last longer but it didn't.
He teaches from place to place till the owners find out he is a fraud then he moves on to another gym. He has been doing this for the past 6 years that I have known him."

Never too late to atone if his legitimacy is in question, I specialize in atonement, must've been that Catholic upbringing, lol. I'll be waiting @ HQ, I look forward to sharing our system with you.

“Oh what a tangled web we weave, When first we practice to deceive”

[redcloud.anquoe]

The "black belts", as in more than one, came from Mr. Terry Gibson, he passed away Sept. 27th, 1997. He taught me JKD concepts & in the curriculum were several different black belts that were attainable, one of them being "Machado Jiu Jitsu". BUT, Mr. Gibson called it "Groundfighting" NOT Machado Jiu jitsu, That's a bold statement in itself. I've experienced rolling with a student of Carlos Machado & that dude was strong. I have since quit teaching Jeet Kune Do Concepts, but still keep the idea alive. Mainly, because it works in theory. Another black belt I received, from Shihan Tony Martin, was in Bujinkan Shiba Ninpo Taijutsu, which was another waste of time and money...it was for me anyway. I have been fortunate enough, thankfully, to experience being around Bas Rutten, as well as going to a try-out for the IFL's Razorclaw Team coached by Frank Shamrock. I wish I knew how to post a video, but I am on the Highlight reel for the Razorclaw/Frank Shamrock tryouts. All I want is to get a chance to legitimately belt in a strong system of Brazilian Jiu jitsu & I know the 10th Planet Jiu jitsu is the place for me...

[redcloud.anquoe]

Piet ( I could've disrespected his name, but didn't) for the record has never met me. We did fight on a "loaded card" with Triton judges, a Triton Ref....etc. I've never really sat down to talk with Piet about why he doesn't like me. I've never once said ANYTHING about his family, mainly because I wouldn't want someone saying anything about my own. To disrepect someone's family is a total lack of Integrity, Character, & everything that makes a person good. Piet, I would never disrespect you kids, your wife, your parents, or your family...but, you on the other hand. Let me train with the 10th Planet & I'll gladly give you your pretty payback...it'd be a classic Army vs. Marine stand-off. I should hope after that, we could bury all this B.S. and get along. I don't know you to judge you, but I do know you don't like me for some unknow reason. I never said I came to your gym & beat all your students, never said anything about you, Jimmy Johnson, Levi, or whoever else you train. That was all started by some unknown A-hole who wanted to see us square off... Maybe we can bring you out of your "retirement" & hook it up one more time.
I know you don't like me (for some unknown reason), so by nature, I don't like you...Other people don't like you cause your a D**K.

[redcloud.anquoe]

dang...my grammar sucked!!

[redcloud.anquoe]

Thankyou Josh. You could've left me out to dry, but went to bat for me anyway....Thanks again.

[Josh Smith]

No problem Red. If you shoot straight with people, you won't have a problem with anyone on here. We have people here who specialize in calling people on their bullshit! And just an FYI (in case you didn't read) when it asks for your rank on here it specifically asks for your 10th Planet ranking, and not your other achievements. You should really fix that if you don't want to get hammered by insults and accusations. No disrespect to your various achievements in the martial arts but this is what Eddie has ask us to do for his system and his forum. I have quite a few years of jiu jitsu myself as well as some semi-pro mma fights but I was never given a JJ rank. So even though I do well against purple belts and tap most blue belts on a regular basis, I'm still a white belt. You have to be recognized by someone who is qualified to teach JJ to make your rank legitament. So since you don't have an official BJJ rank, change your 10th Planet rank to white belt and be humble because the belt tells people how you are suppose to perform and if you don't perform to the satisfaction of what you're claiming to be, then you're mis-representing and know one will respect you! It's better to be a blue belt that rolls like a brown belt that a brown belt that rolls like a white belt (I.E. Brandon Quick).

[Josh Smith]

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