Getting the twister roll

Originally Posted by BrentSmith

Where are you twister rolling from? I can't picture how you're ending up in half guard.

Are you rolling over the wrong shoulder?? That would most def put you in bottom half. If you're in twister side on their right side you should be Rollin over your left shoulder. If you roll over your right you'll basically pull them right into half.

If you roll from 3/4 mount, the opponent can use your momentum as you roll to turn in and get top half.

Originally Posted by Tori Applegate

If you roll from 3/4 mount, the opponent can use your momentum as you roll to turn in and get top half.

Interesting. I have not experienced this but anything is possible. Then again I don't Samurai often. Well traditional Samurai at least

Do you have the Mastering the Twister DVD? That really helped me in terms of seeing all the transitions come to life (the book is awesome, but for me at least I need to see it, and then compliment with the notes). Of course, it does take practice and you do need to drill it first to get the motion, and then second with a resisting partner so you can feel the different roadblocks/speed bumps. Try to spend time not only working the twister roll from SC but also when opponent is on all fours (the Muffle and Dodge really helped me with getting the Twister roll, the half guard roll I don't do that much but even then I felt improvement after watching the dvd several times).

Don't give up, keep working on adding whatever 10pjj you can along with the standard BJJ basics!

Originally Posted by BrentSmith

Interesting. I have not experienced this but anything is possible. Then again I don't Samurai often. Well traditional Samurai at least

Sean went through a twister phase...Needless to say I learned quick to twist out of the samurai roll.....

Originally Posted by BrentSmith

Interesting. I have not experienced this but anything is possible. Then again I don't Samurai often. Well traditional Samurai at least

Yep. Back when I was first playing with it based on observation, I'd roll them too hard and roll them straight to their knees. For the back take I had to learn to either roll them slower or be prepared to sit up and take the back. For the truck I needed to learn about grabbing the toes.

lol i know, but its not possible right now. If I thought it only takes 8 times I would be a bit stupid lol

from turtle

Originally Posted by bobby rivers

Are you attempting from twister-side or 3/4 mount?

Originally Posted by Andrew Sarasin

from turtle

if the roll forward doesnt work; pull his/her big stinkyass onto yours, by that i mean fall backwards. it looks less cool but, sometimes you cant roll forward for w/e reason.

I thought Eddie said in his video to go towards the feet and not straight forward. Unless that's what u mean. I'll try it again today, hopefully I can stay in the truck.

Originally Posted by Scott Philips

Yes. Drill way more when your not free rolling so the move is more muscle memory than conscious thought. It's hard to say what you doing wrong without details or a video. A common mistake is you want to be rolling towards their feet.

Originally Posted by David Rosado

This used to happen to me when I had no idea what I was doing and I was just emulating youtube.

If you're looking for the truck, make sure you're maintaining control of the other leg before you roll. I prefer on hand on the shin near the ankle, the other hand cupping the toes. Or you can use the wrestler grip from fishnet.

If you're trying to take the back, it's not often that they'll land in your lap. They might just end up on all fours so you wanna be ready to sit up and take the back with the seatbelt grip.

I have the twister DVD and even with that I suck. But I'll try to hold the feet better next time. I thought the twister roll was only from the turtle position, the other guy in Tuttle of course, like in the twister book. Rolling forward seems to work better then pulling them towards you, there's less resistance in my experience but seems harder not to lose my trick position. I hope it goes well today damit! Maybe on a noob it will work.