Stoner control

[ml82]

What are some other options from there? I only know that the calf crank is there, but can you take the back from there? Any other finishing options? Especially ones that are ibjjf friendly

[Eddie Bravo]

Pass, arm triangle and vaporizor but be careful, you can also get caught in a kimura

[Scott Ray]

There's some stoner control in the new book.. I just started reading it last night!

[Eddie Bravo]

Master getting to the vaporizor, it will save your ass

[marc luu]

i try to avoid any cranks. it's not legal for my belt class, and when i used to do it in class, guys would tell me it's illegal and not to do it. but believe me, i see the openings and want to yank on that foot.

[Brent Smith]

I used to get mad about getting jaw cranked and things that were "illegal" in competition but now if I get tapped, I get tapped. It's legit either way.

[Scott Ray]

I used to get mad about getting jaw cranked and things that were "illegal" in competition but now if I get tapped, I get tapped. It's legit either way.

Yup yup. I agree totally. Definately the best mindset on this.. But if your instructor tells you no slicers, then no slicers.. . Gotta respect your coach.

[Brent Smith]

Yup yup. I agree totally. Definately the best mindset on this.. But if your instructor tells you no slicers, then no slicers.. . Gotta respect your coach.

Oh def gotta respect the coach's decision. It's good to have rules for the guys that may spazz into things and hurt someone. Aka newer guys.

[ml82]

The instructor has never personally said anything about it to me, i just don't want to instinctually go for it for competition reasons.

[Scott Ray]

Mam, that's your decision on whether you wanna train for certain rules or train for life..