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    There are a million different things you can do. I like hindu squats and hindu push ups, back bridging, table makers etc. I also like to lift and swim, or do different type of sprint workouts, kettlebells. I just change it up. Working on my cardio has been very helpful for me. I have terrible asthma so I need all the help I can get. Cardio is huge! The biggest reason for strength training, in my opinion, is it helps prevent injuries. I think everyone should resistance train, jiu jitsu or no.

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    this is comin from a guy whos "exercise growing up was bmx and smoking, so take that into account. Also i fight mma mostly these days. But ive been using westside barbell methods, like going crazy on box jumps to produce better deadlifts and squats which in turn produce better overall strength for the ol legs and trunk which makes lock downs, any motion in which lockdown is applied, dudas, bi cep crush from spider web just.....RUTHLESS. My opinion on weight training changed when i seen pablo papovitch wether natrual or not i would not want to defend a rnc from him with those guns. DISCLAIMER I match my lifts with cardio i.e. if i go nuts with lifts i go nuts with the battle ropes, also i stretch like crazy afterwards cuz i am scared to death of losing flexibility

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    If someone is just rolling at the gym I guess I could understand only using that to stay in shape and work on technique. But if someone is gonna compete I don't see how it makes sense to not lift/strength train. Certain muscles aren't going to get enough work from just rolling. Then when you need that extra strength or muscle endurance, its not gonna be there. Not to mention, weight lifting strengthens your bones, tendons, and ligaments.

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    So what I've gathered is that anaerobic cardio (sprints, battle ropes, etc) should be number one. Then I should implement the big four (press, bench, squat, DL) and things to supplement those. And I also need to have full body, core focused exercises like knees to elbows and ghd sit ups and oly lifts.

    So basically I should start up my old training program from the good ole pigskin days....... I hate my life.........

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    Yo Ross, totally random, but when I see you post on Facebook, on a BJJ page, I'm like, "Hey, I know that guy..."
    "Blame the IBJJF when, in 30 years you see an academy that nails the phrase, "A Red belt is a Junior black belt that hasn't died yet" on the far wall."

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    The answer is jiujitsu. Just like tori said. Barncat teaches at a college. He has to deal with college level football players in a regular basis. 260lb dudes with 4.4sec 40's and benching a small car. And the skinny weak little Barncat storms through them every time. I guarantee you, I'll bet my paycheck, you are stronger than Barncat. Tori has the idea. Jiujitsu was designed to be the superior athlete..

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    *Designed to beat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott Ray View Post
    The answer is jiujitsu. Just like tori said. Barncat teaches at a college. He has to deal with college level football players in a regular basis. 260lb dudes with 4.4sec 40's and benching a small car. And the skinny weak little Barncat storms through them every time. I guarantee you, I'll bet my paycheck, you are stronger than Barncat. Tori has the idea. Jiujitsu was designed to be the superior athlete..
    +1

    I think early in your Jiu Jitsu journey, strength is a detriment to your technique. It can make you sloppy if you're not careful.

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    I'm certainly not an accomplished athlete, so take this for what it's worth, one white belt dude's opinion:

    I started with Muay Thai in 2003 and got wrapped up into Crossfit shortly after (early days, lie 2005). Eventually I got so sucked up into it that I started dropping days at Muay Thai and eventually stopped all together. I got strong, but I would trade every second of olympic lifting and kettlebell swinging I did for time on the mat if I could.

    I would say never switch a day of rolling for a day of lifting if that's the choice. When I do multiple workouts these days, it's always Jiu-Jitsu and Ashtanga Yoga. I've found that yogic breathing is actually super effective for when some big dude is laying on you (I'm 155 lbs too) and the flexibility I have has paid off way more than strength.

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    Two separate thought camps I suppose. I have no intention of making "gains" or "bulking up". I used to weigh185 power lifting and doing cross fit workouts for my fore-mentioned sport of origination. Since abandoning the weight room I've dropped 30lbs, am still strong, and have lots more flexibility and functional strength. Also, I love jiu jitsu too much to ever skip it to lift weights. I find lifting to be mind numbingly boring and strenuous on my CNS to the point of exhaustion.

    However, I have experienced the benefits of simple supplementation, also mentioned earlier. And seeing as how I have a good bit of experience when it comes to weight training, I've made the decision to add some extra supplementation. You can try to convince me not to, but I'm going to do it anyway

    Thanks for all the advice though, on both sides of the coin.

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