Do either of you hit the JJ2 when they base heavy on the hand? I havn't been able to try it in rolling yet (one more week til rib injury is fully in the clear) but I've been able to drill the butterfly warm-ups, and it seems when they are really heavy on the posted hand, instead of underhooking near the armpit, if you underhook either at the tricep or the wrist you can collapse his arm forward and load him up to sweep him either way. Any body have any success with something like this?