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    "Whizzering down" implies he is pushing into you, as most people push down to the mat with a whizzer.
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    Ah ok. Well I guess he wasn't whizzering down then. Definitely was a powerful whizzer though that really challenged my posture. But he was indeed pulling forward (direction my head was pointing) and away from me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ross Davidson View Post
    Ah ok. Well I guess he wasn't whizzering down then. Definitely was a powerful whizzer though that really challenged my posture. But he was indeed pulling forward (direction my head was pointing) and away from me.
    Try the Drowning Jiu from there.
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    Not sure if you can hit this with his strong wizzer but.. When I get to dog fight and get stuck I go for the back. Not sure what it's called but, I take the arm that is being wizzd and put The back of my hand on his temple. I then connect my hands with an S-grip over his head. I then have a neck crank that forces him into taking out the wizzer and giving me his back.

    P.s. What is the name for this transition to the back?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Herzog View Post
    Try the Drowning Jiu from there.
    I've seen it but can't remember the exact move. I'll have to look it up. Thanks!!!
    Quote Originally Posted by Sean James View Post
    Not sure if you can hit this with his strong wizzer but.. When I get to dog fight and get stuck I go for the back. Not sure what it's called but, I take the arm that is being wizzd and put The back of my hand on his temple. I then connect my hands with an S-grip over his head. I then have a neck crank that forces him into taking out the wizzer and giving me his back.

    P.s. What is the name for this transition to the back?
    Do you put your arm around his head or over his near side shoulder when going to touch his temple?
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    Ah ok never mind I think I know what you're saying now
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sean James View Post
    Not sure if you can hit this with his strong wizzer but.. When I get to dog fight and get stuck I go for the back. Not sure what it's called but, I take the arm that is being wizzd and put The back of my hand on his temple. I then connect my hands with an S-grip over his head. I then have a neck crank that forces him into taking out the wizzer and giving me his back.

    P.s. What is the name for this transition to the back?
    The Mookie.

    The powder keg is also loaded to go from the pressure you described Ross. But generally if an overhook is beating your unders, you need to connect your core and align your skeleton for more leverage. Once you're up you can post an arm and leg as long as you keep his leg trapped and head tight. My wrestling arose from and greatly increased with knowledge of the dogfight.

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    So are you saying that I should use the boa more?
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    For what it's worth,I love hitting the cobra from Prison Guard. As Zog said,if you can't finish,you've got the swim move right there

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ross Davidson View Post
    So are you saying that I should use the boa more?
    Chael used this exact whizzer on Galvao. Galvao tried a version of plan b and was whizzered onto his face. What eventually won the position was when Galvao reconnected his bodylock, aligned his body, and drove through Chael's whizzer.

    I like the boa because you never unconnect. Safety+leverage.

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