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    I read the book call Ratline: Soviet Spies, Nazi Priests, and the Disappearance of Adolf Hitler
    By Peter levenda. Check it out

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eddie Bravo View Post
    How is it crazy/faith based??

    There is zero evidence that he committed suicide. The only reason that is the official story is because our government said so. M
    I think it is super ultra crazy that anyone would believe anything the government says ESPECIALLY with no scientific evidence.

    Again: A. The goverent is full of shit B. There is zero evidence hitler commited suicide C. Mad Nazis fled to South America D. The government is full of shit
    You're asking me why believing something without evidence is crazy or faith based (same thing)? Ok well if there is no evidence for something then you must rely on emotion (faith) to believe it is true. Thinking something is most likely true is not the same as believing it is true. Belief requires faith. To make conclusions about the world based on emotion as opposed to evidence is the essence of insanity imo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Herzog View Post
    Absence of is not evidence of . It just means it may or may not exist. It is extremely plausible that Hitler did make it out of Germany. I don't have stock in the argument either way. But to completely dismiss the idea is absurd knowing the history of lies and fuck ups by our governmental agencies.
    No one has put forth that a lack of evidence is evidence to the contrary. To completely dismiss the idea would be to not ask for evidence, right? Why would you ask for evidence if you already dismissed the possibility?

    It seems you are assuming that simply because people want evidence before they say something appears to be true, they are arguing that it is not true or dismissing it.

    When we ask for evidence we are assuming it could be true.

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    I dont agree that it is "extremely plausible". It is possible but not plausible imo but I'd like to be convinced.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Just Kadek View Post
    I read the book call Ratline: Soviet Spies, Nazi Priests, and the Disappearance of Adolf Hitler
    By Peter levenda. Check it out
    This is the second suggestion I've gotten to read it. I think I probably should
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ross Davidson View Post
    This is the second suggestion I've gotten to read it. I think I probably should
    There are many books about hitler escaping to either brazil or argentina, as drew pointed out the idea was well known before these docs were released. Wiki list several on the topic.

    You should also read, "Hitler's Last Days".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eddie Bravo View Post
    A. Our government is filled with liars
    B. Hitler's body was never recovered
    C. Many Nazi's fled to South America
    D. There are witnesses on video in Argentina that claim they knew him

    A. Not evidence that they are lying about this particular thing. The general public is also full of liars so by an extension of your logic their claims are also suspect.
    B. Not evidence that he escaped germany or went anywhere else.
    C. Yep, is this evidence that hitler was one of them somehow?
    D. There are first person accounts of bigfoot, leprechauns, unicorns, angels, trolls, demons, ect. Many people claim to have a person relationship (to know) jesus, is that evidence? If I posted a video of people saying they know the flying spaghetti monster would you consider that compelling?
    Last edited by Aaron Gustaveson; 10-03-2014 at 03:03 PM. Reason: added general public part.
    GO SHARKS!

    "A conspiracy theorist is a person who tacitly admits that they have insufficient data to prove their points. A conspiracy theory is a battle cry of a person with insufficient data." Neil DeGrasse Tyson

    If this shit turns out to be true, I will get a tattoo of a crop duster spelling out the phrase, "Eddie was right!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joachim Hoff View Post
    I saw this docu were they got to investigate Hitlers skull, (Russians had been sitting on it)
    The dental records matched.
    However, that was hidden away for a loooong time, so who knows. Maybe he did escape, but they got to him sometime afterwards.

    A lot of Nazis did escape to Argentina tho. I don't know.
    What doc?

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    Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence and no evidence of one theory isnt evidence for another theory.
    Im not arguing whether or not he actually escaped or not. We dont know and thats all Im trying to say. Its all speculation unless they recover a body, or dna of some type. A blurry photo of an old white dude with a black chick and reports from whats essentially a random Argentinian are hardly evidence. Thats all.
    To say its proof due to 1)lack of proof for suicide and 2) because the FBI received reports, is perfect example of logical fallacies. Im a fan of critical thinking... understanding what logical fallacies are and being able to recognize them is part of that and in my opinion this is a clear example.
    Love ya dude and I hope or the sake of history you're wrong (which is technically a logical fallacy as well)

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    How would this constitute extraordinary? I find this hardly difficult to have happened.
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