BJJ is Too Expensive

[Mike Noronowicz]

how about this:

SUBMISSIONS 101 yeaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhh

[Rene "Zendokan" Gysenbergs]

I am moving to fucking Belgium. Gotta learn French I suppose... How do you say "crackhead", "zombie", and "Dude! Quit bogarting the bong!" in French?

I'm from the north part where the language is Flemish (Dutch dialect), but you can use "crackhead", "zombie" and "Dude! Quit bogarting the bong!" since 90% of the Flemish speak Dutch, French and English.

"Dude! Quit bogarting the bong!" = Mec! passe le bong maintenant! (Dude, pass the bong right now!)

[stlnl]

Well the government (in agreement with the federations) controls the standards for ranking and instructor certificates, so that's the government "control".
But since the government subsidises the insurance companies AND the sportfederations (which subsidises the individual sportclubs) I can say that prices are here cheap:
- BJJ (+open mat times) = 300€/year (upto 4times a week + 2times open mat) + 50€ insurance/year
- Judo = 94€/year (upto 3times a week) + 36€ insurance/year
- Muay Thai + MMA = 110€/20times + 60€ insurance/year
- Savate = 6€/a time + 36€ insurance/year

Not really prices to get bankrupt with + the insurance covers everything (full hospital, full home medical, "bring at home" meals and full weigher during your sick leave if it's not possible to go to work).



So some government 'control' isn't so bad, since here it is impossible to slap yourself a black belt on without the right qualifications and start your club. Also I like the Belgian government since here the use of marihuana is legal!

Sadly, here in the US, people like Cecil peoples would be the guys with government certification. If you have qualified folks making the call, more power to you, doesnt seem to work that way here.

[Rene "Zendokan" Gysenbergs]

Sadly, here in the US, people like Cecil peoples would be the guys with government certification. If you have qualified folks making the call, more power to you, doesnt seem to work that way here.

It's not that there are Jiu Jitsueros in the government or that it's the government that provides the certifications.

The top of a Combat Sport/Martial Arts Federation does a write-up of the requirements for each rank (colored belts and all the black belts ranks).

This will be given to the Ministry that is responsable for sport education (and ant-steroids control, sport subsidises, etc...), they overlook this paper and also let some sport MDs and psychologist look at it, that's to prevent injury prown testing (example: swinging with a real katana at unarmed fellow students or (heavy) humiliating bonding crap, etc...).

Once this is approved, this becomes the standard for each club connected to that federation and only at the Black Belt (or higher) tests their will be a representative of the government overviewing that each member get the same difficulty level of exam. This is to prevent favortism between clubs or between individuals.

Offcourse with BJJ there's (mostly) no real exam, but the government knows that the BJJ community is self regulating. If some instructor gives his belts too easy, his students will get masacred in competition.

When a federation wants to change their requirements for ranks, they do again a write-up and it gets tested again...and so one, so one.