To follow up on the additional compliments to the rubber guard, even Renner stated that while in rubber guard that "his arms were essential rendered useless in terms of striking and what he could do to Saunders"...holy fucking shit was that an amazing compliment to the rubber guard! Not only recognizing it's effectiveness in Jiu Jitsu, but in MMA as well is huge; which is what Eddie designed this technique for...so for me, that was my nut right there.