Proper name and counters to Hip Switch Half Guard?

[jeron]

I'm not even sure what this position is called so I don't know how to even start looking up how to counter it. From half guard the top man (with his right leg trapped in half) sits on his left hip while moving his entire upper body past the bottom mans head and onto bottom guys left side. Effectively smashing bottom man flat and exposing him to a Kimura attack.
So what is this called and what are the counters? Thanks!

[HerbChao]

I get hit my that pass alot (and use it myself) vs lockdown and traditional half. Pat (purple belt from Phoenix) has told me he will try to super stomp/stomp his way to either butterfly/cocoon, or at least kick the opponent further past to make space to hip escape/shrimp. Another black belt I work with has told me similar, let him think he's passing and as he withdrawls the leg do a bit of a push kick and shrimp/move away.

Also, if he doesn't sit his free leg at your waist or above, you tend to have a slightly larger window to escape (and if he has a loose cross face). if he has a tight cross face, and has his free knee at your belt level or above it'll be harder to counter/escape.

A 3rd option I've been told is to try to force a whip back (a bit harder too, as he's taken his weight off you).

[Apperz]

Marcelo calls it the turning pass, Caio Terra call it the Hip Switch Half Guard.

See the first disk of Caio Terra's 111 Half Guard Techniques A fair few attacks and counters on MGIA too.

If you don't have access to either let me know and I will type you up some notes tomorrow

[Apperz]

From MGinAction:

The Turning Pass vs Half Guard is a very dominant pass used often by Marcelo. Once the opponent initiates the Turning Pass, battle for the control of the position by securing Under Hook and Head Control. It is vital to immediately counter the opponent's elbow from stretching you at the under arm, or you will not be successful. If the opponent posts with his leg to prevent the Sweep, use a Hook Sweep to finish additionally.

And:

If opponent decides to Turn-In to defeat your Frame Escape, follow him with your Reverse Underhook and throw him off of you by kicking with a Butterfly Hook for the Half Guard Turning Pass Counter.

[VJ Bella]

I've heard it called the twister pass and the sit out pass. We call it the switch pass at my school.

[bobby rivers]

Twister Smash pass. Best to not let them turn by controlling their upper body via clench. If you know it's one of their go-to moves you will see start to see when you're vulnerable. If you can't control him, as he turns immediately get your elbows together in the middle of your chest so his weight is on your frame. Push his hips as far down toward your hips as possible and get up on your right elbow or hand. Here you can scoot escape to guard or grab his hip with your hand and bump sweep him to your own twister smash.

The key is to not let him settle and separate your elbows from your body. If he's good and gets here, your pretty much passed.

[Brian Debes]

Twister Smash pass. Best to not let them turn by controlling their upper body via clench. If you know it's one of their go-to moves you will see start to see when you're vulnerable. If you can't control him, as he turns immediately get your elbows together in the middle of your chest so his weight is on your frame. Push his hips as far down toward your hips as possible and get up on your right elbow or hand. Here you can scoot escape to guard or grab his hip with your hand and bump sweep him to your own twister smash.

The key is to not let him settle and separate your elbows from your body. If he's good and gets here, your pretty much passed.

^ This.


The pass your describing sounds like a twister pass for sure which is one of eddies favorites. It can be done with several different exact grips for the top guy which people might be referring to using other names. Your best bet is preventing the turn or trying to "crank" his head into turning back in once he's turned, but if he's good at it that will be rough.

Depending on what he's doing with his hands at the moment, I will try this though: If his hands are away from my feet, I'll quickly super stomp and then lift him up towards my head with the butterfly (not to the side and the angle of the butterfly sweep; that won't work there because he will just base with the leg you have butterflied). From there its possible to get my knee through at which point I will have his back if he can't manage to get his arm back across in time. If he does get his arm back across immediately, I still get guard. The secret is elevating him up so you can get that knee out. But if his upper body is already controlling your legs, the chances that will work are much lower.