question about nibiru

[frank-theman-james]

this! this thread is too intelligent for me... lata

[Karim Graham]

i saw a video on here before about the 10th planet and it said something about it having an elliptic orbit, so it only comes within our area of the solar system every something-thousand years or so. it wasnt a random madmans ideas, it was based on ancient writings. look around on here and you should find it somewhere.

[Jason Hyatt]

i saw a video on here before about the 10th planet and it said something about it having an elliptic orbit, so it only comes within our area of the solar system every something-thousand years or so. it wasnt a random madmans ideas, it was based on ancient writings. look around on here and you should find it somewhere.

It's based on Zecharia Sitchen's works. Whether he was a madman or scholar depends on whether or not you are a professional archeaologist with a particular interest in Sumerian writings. If you are, he's not much more than a quack who can't even read the language he supposedly translated. If you're not, he might be on to something. The very, very, very short version: He postulated that the Sumerian gods were aliens from the planet Nibiru. Everybody else who reads Sumerian seems to think he doesn't know much about ancient languages. In fact, in the only semi-challenge he ever faced directly he was unable to translate even rudimentary passages using the correct grammar. I don't read Sumerian and I don't attend the University of Chicago (gotta find that challenge again...) so I really can't say whether he knew what he was talking about or not. My skepticism of his Nibiru-is-a-real-planet hypothesis comes only from the fact that his description of such planet seems farfetched at best given the planets we've already discovered that are MUCH further away than he hypothesized Nibiru to be and that the ones we've discovered are incredibly small compared to Nibiru (again, Nibiru is supposed to be about Neptune-sized and we've found several dwarf planets considerably smaller than our own Moon more than twice as far away as Nibiru is supposed to be). 3800 years sounds like a pretty long orbit, but when you can find five different rocks with orbits that large or larger and a VERY small red rock with a 12,000 year orbit, the likelihood that there is a huge undiscovered planet in that range seems infinitesimally small. Not zero, but so unlikely as to be effectively zero.

Now there are a couple of hypotheses I have read wherein Nibiru was either A) involved in a major collision and formed the asteroid belt (not currently borne out by any data) or B) directly collided with Earth and the resulting impact formed the Moon. Of the Nibiru hypotheses this one seems more likely than the others except that it would have to be Mars-sized, not Neptune-sized to have created the Moon (or it would have simply obliterated the whole planet). The geological data on this is better; the moon seems to have pretty clearly been formed by a massive collision between Earth and a Mars-sized object a little more than 4.6 billion years ago. The big problem with this, of course, is that such a collision would have had to happen WAAAAY before there were even bacteria much less Sumerians with cuneiform tablets.

[Sam Bergeron]

On a side note. Planets don't have highly elliptical orbits, comets and asteroids mostly do. Planets are too massive to have that kind of orbit, which is why they have to orbit in an almost perfect circle, or a ellipse of very low eccentricity. Therefore making nibiru almost impossible. Also, if Nibiru was an actual planet orbiting the sun in an elliptical orbit it would have the most fucked up atmosphere ever, think about it as if the planet is solid when its 1900 years away (its furthest point) and then it comes as close to the sun as earth, making its atmosphere change from some REALLY REALLY cold temperature to a "hotter" one like we know how the hell could a specie live in two entirely different climates.

[Karim Graham]

i dont really have a reply for most these comments, im not a genius and im not well versed in astrophysics either. but what you said sam abotu a species living in two different climates was a good point. but considering how long the orbit is theorised to be, by the time the planet came back near our sun thousands of years would have passed, consider how much we have changed in the past few thousands years and it doesnt seem so far fetched that they could have reached a technological point where creating their own artificial climate is very possible. im gonna leave this thread on that note, i dont do neverending debates like this, they never end....

[Harry Evans]

I used to study astrophysics at UC: Berkeley, but I have not been in the loop, and actually have not heard about this. Can someone either link an article describing the basics of what Nibiru is, or explain it from the start? Thanks in advance