Guys who grab fingers during rolls

my ring finger has been sore for weeks due to a spaz cranking on it while rolling. Obviously he just grabbed the single finger and not three or more (I think the 3 or more rule is pretty fair). But as far as "finger control" goes, I like to grab all four fingers if I can for control the same way you grab the toes on a toe hold or calf crank

Originally Posted by TaylorWolf

Yea… just to clear things up I was not yet aware of this 4-finger crush control that seems popular here. I will definitely consider using it once I have a better mastery of the basics. I already enjoy cupping/crushing the toes with Toe Holds and such.

I was specifically talking about guys who grab just a finger or two and yank in a fit of blind savagery. In my case yesterday we were in an open guard position both times. (I have been working a lot on disengaging and quick standing passes lately) My opponents were grabbing at my hands in order to pull me into some sort of spider guard position while I was dancing around. Its now apparent to me that they might have been going for this 4-finger control, but they couldn't secure it and instead just latched on to my index finger and tried to yank me down into guard. (this is why my first thought was to blame the Gi lol)

As far as white belts are concerned I am about as intimidating as they come. I tend to bring out the demon in blue and purple belts. They know I can tap them and they fight for their life to pretend I can't. I say bring it on because I'm feeling ready for serious competition. Like I said earlier, I am just going to focus that much harder on getting underhooks/overhooks quickly.

Yeah that's something you have the right to be mad about. One finger grabbing is no bueno

Originally Posted by Martin Harris

You aren't grabbing single fingers and twisting though are you?

If someone is grabbing single fingers on me and twisting/bending I will ask them to grab at least 3 at a time or don't do it at all. I haven't had a problem with anyone hurting me after asking. It's the training room not a tournament, no need to injure your training partners.

No never less than 3. If someone is grabbing individual digits, it is definitely intentional. They may not realize that it's illegal/dangerous; but it isn't an accident.

I think people should learn to deal with it. Anything less than 3-4 fingers is pretty bad manners though. I am fine with people grabbing my fingers but I am not going to keep it playful and I will be going 100%

I'm not too bothered. People use it alot to break gi grips. As long as they're not trying to snap them off, I dont get too offended.

2 or more fingers I'm ok with
On a similar note ,which big red showed me is controlling the toes while passing open guard
Basically gripping /cupping/smashing lol the toes (all together) is super effective and hurts. Rather than grabbing the ankles

Originally Posted by ben jones

2 or more fingers I'm ok with
On a similar note ,which big red showed me is controlling the toes while passing open guard
Basically gripping /cupping/smashing lol the toes (all together) is super effective and hurts. Rather than grabbing the ankles

Hell yea… this works to pass a Z guard also

Ever since Brandon showed me this I've used it. It's way better than wrist control and it creates reactions (usually a nice snatch of the hand. I never bend fingers and I ask people that are bending mine to stop. I work for a living, I need my fingers nice and not broken.