knee popped gogo clinch

[Tomdavis1029]

hey guys this has probably been posted before but its always good to get some experienced opinions. so we were live drilling full guard passes and sweeps/subs in class last week. so i was of course playing rubber guard. got free new york. went to chill dog then kung fu moved my foot into position. he blocked by putting his hand on my foot.
i tried to force my foot back into place and we all heard 3 loud pops.
doctors have told me its my LCL (lateral cruciate ligament) and my PCC (posterior cruciate corner) no specifics on how long ill be out but its only a minor injury i believe, because im able to walk (slowly) and it is able to bare weight.
just wondering if anyone has had this injury and what the recovery time was, what measures did you put into place after the fact.
thanks guys

[Arman Fathi]

i tried to force my foot back into place and we all heard 3 loud pops.

There's your problem. I've found an overall principle of jiu jitsu to be that when one door closes, another door opens. In other words, every quarter second to half second the position you're doing or going for goes from being the best option for the situation to the worst option for the situation. If you feel a path that is blocked and it would take brute strength and FORCE to make it happen, reconsider if it's worth it for the sake of longevity. Go for something else or if you don't know what to do, do nothing and observe. I tend to learn more that way. Even if it means getting smashed, I live to fight another day and get to examine the position in depth later. Staying on the mats consistently will get you better than forcing techniques and saying you pulled them off.

[Gabor]

I had the same problem exactly one year ago. Just one pop. I almost couldn't walk next day but I didn't go to the doctor. I bought a supporter (zamst) and began training after resting about three weeks. I tried to get back my flexibility doing yoga once or twice a week. Last month I was able to do the lotus position again without using my hands (just flipping the legs in a seated position). I try to be extra careful with my rubber guard nowadays. I don't use the gogo clinch. And I've got super flexible with my uninjured leg that used to be the weak side rubber guard.

[Jeff Baldwin]

The key is hip flexibility.... if you have really flexible hips the pressure is removed from the knee.

[Eric Schuettenberg]

I had the exact same injury from the go go clinch last August. I started pt almost right away and it has helped. Im not sure if its a age issue or what (im 48) but 13 months later and I still dont think its healed all the way. I still have some pain and stiffness from time to time and my range of motion isnt any where near what it used to be. But like everyone else has said it has forced me to work on other parts of my game which will only make me better in the long run.

[bobby rivers]

When he's pushing the foot, swim under the armpit of the attacking hand, connect your hands. I call it the straight clinch because from there you just pull him into the straight jacket. This also removes his grip.

Sucks you're hurt. Get better man

[Tomdavis1029]

There's your problem. I've found an overall principle of jiu jitsu to be that when one door closes, another door opens. In other words, every quarter second to half second the position you're doing or going for goes from being the best option for the situation to the worst option for the situation. If you feel a path that is blocked and it would take brute strength and FORCE to make it happen, reconsider if it's worth it for the sake of longevity. Go for something else or if you don't know what to do, do nothing and observe. I tend to learn more that way. Even if it means getting smashed, I live to fight another day and get to examine the position in depth later. Staying on the mats consistently will get you better than forcing techniques and saying you pulled them off.

Yea brother I figured that out after the fact, I knew after that I should have hipped out to decrease the pressure on my knee. But thank you for the idea of constant reassessment never really thought about breaking it down that far.

[Tomdavis1029]

When he's pushing the foot, swim under the armpit of the attacking hand, connect your hands. I call it the straight clinch because from there you just pull him into the straight jacket. This also removes his grip.

Sucks you're hurt. Get better man

How do you get your leg that deep?

[Tomdavis1029]

I had the exact same injury from the go go clinch last August. I started pt almost right away and it has helped. Im not sure if its a age issue or what (im 48) but 13 months later and I still dont think its healed all the way. I still have some pain and stiffness from time to time and my range of motion isnt any where near what it used to be. But like everyone else has said it has forced me to work on other parts of my game which will only make me better in the long run.

so you still have tightness, did you see a doctor or specialist to find out the extent of the damage

[Tomdavis1029]

The key is hip flexibility.... if you have really flexible hips the pressure is removed from the knee.

Yea I agree