hey new guy.

[leglockmike]

Hi, I am new here. I don't do 10th planet you jiu jitsu, I wish I could. I do the lockdown a lot and sweeps from there. I don't know why a lot of people talk down about 10th planet stuff. The positions from truck and lockdown has helped me a lot. I just wanna day I respect you guys styles and hope to learn more from it.

[leglockmike]

I meant 10th planet jiu jitsu not you jiu jitsu. Damn auto correct.

[julian moran]

It's all a question of education. People raised with traditional BJJ, will likely develop "loyalty" to that system of thought. We are products of our environment; as well, we are creators of our environment. Acknowledgment of the current state of being, is a first step towards moving forward, breaking barriers, and becoming the real you.

[Eddie Bravo]

10th Planet Jiu Jitsu might have more nogi techniques than most BJJ associations in the world. An average 10p blue belt is versed in deep half, spiral, DLR, X, single X, butterfly as well as 1/4, lockdown, twister, rubber, prison, & leg locks which most traditional BJJ academies stay clear away from. Plus all the crucial nogi basics are included in our warm up curriculum. Only out of ignorance would anyone disrespect the 10p style.

[leglockmike]

I am gonna have to get a memebership here. I wanna learn much as I can. When our Brown belt teaches he does rubber guard and lockdown stuff. I do the lockdown, deep half, 50/50 and i am only one that does Williams guard. My teacher though he does do the lockdown and 50-50. He said I don't care what you do aslong you get the basics, he tries to keep a open mind about it all. I don't know his view about rubber guard but he likes when I do the Williams guard. Which is call London in your system. Wish there was a school in louisville, Kentucky so I can learn it.

[Enrique "Kiko"]

Welcome Mr. LegLockMike!

[Arman Fathi]

It's all a question of education. People raised with traditional BJJ, will likely develop "loyalty" to that system of thought. We are products of our environment; as well, we are creators of our environment. Acknowledgment of the current state of being, is a first step towards moving forward, breaking barriers, and becoming the real you.

Loyalty is not mutually exclusive. Some guys, like myself, are highly loyal to our lineage but are on a quest to learn jiu jitsu to it's fullest and don't discount knowledge from whatever source. Since stumbling upon 10p, I've discovered completely different and unorthodox paths in my rolls that constantly throw off higher level guys from traditional schools. My leg lock game is heavily heavily influenced by 10p, in fact more than a few black belts have tapped to my top-side ashi (s/o to Nathan Orchard). Quarter guard/half-guard game, heavy 10p influence. I learned delariva and reverse delariva from traditional schools, but really smoothened it out and actually started catching people in the sweeps & taking backs once I visited Denny's school and he broke it down. And the truck. Ohhh the truck. The truck is my favorite position in jiu-jitsu, and I'm discovering new ways to enter it the more I train.

Way I see it: haters gonna hate, players gonna play.

[julian moran]

Arman,
I agree that one's quest for knowledge should not be restricted by his/her roots. I am thus not sure why you quoted my response prior to posting your comment.
I will attempt to clarify myself in case I was misunderstood: The reason why people hate on the 10th planet system, is that it is contrary to what they were taught. It is a question of BJJ politics and heritage. By no means did I say that the hate is justified or should be of existence; but it does exist.
I am glad that you are finding to have some level of success with your 10th planet game. I am aware that benefits can derive from studying the 10th planet system. I would not be training in 10th planet jj, if I did not believe in it. In the past, I have also trained in traditional BJJ and other martial arts schools, some schools accepted my 10th planet influenced style, while others despised me for it. It is all a question of mentality, and often, as Eddie wrote earlier it is just a question of ignorance.

[Arman Fathi]

I didn't mean to be misinterpreted, Julian. I agreed with everything you said. I posted more as a way to express that I'm sure there are several out there that practice the 10p system even though they don't have a 10p lineage. Overall, you become a stronger grappler by applying the knowledge, not discounting it. Just wanted to give my 2 cents there

[Luke Noormets]

10th Planet Jiu Jitsu might have more nogi techniques than most BJJ associations in the world. An average 10p blue belt is versed in deep half, spiral, DLR, X, single X, butterfly as well as 1/4, lockdown, twister, rubber, prison, & leg locks which most traditional BJJ academies stay clear away from. Plus all the crucial nogi basics are included in our warm up curriculum. Only out of ignorance would anyone disrespect the 10p style.

100% correct!!
If everyone loved the system as much as the 10 then the victories and achievements wouldn't be as sweet, the haters keep us driven and even more determine to display its effectiveness. Personally I have noticed a change in peoples attitudes since the launch of EBI and more recently after Geo's performance in ADCC, also the contributions from our UFC fighters representing in the octagon have been noticed! You can't stop progression!