Japanese Necktie question

[Matthew Stuart]

I usually hit the Japanese Necktie a couple of times each class these days. I'm really starting to love this move. So much so, that I bought a Rising Sun headband and wore it around my neck like a tie for a while. It didn't look as good as I'd hoped, and none of my friends got the joke, so I've stopped. But it was cool wearing it one night in a bar and telling people that they gave them out for free if you pretended to be Japanese when you ordered a drink.

Which brings me onto my question:

Often when I'm going for the JNT (from half guard on top), I find it difficult to get my right arm far enough through. My hands end up about an inch apart and I really have to fight to get the gable grip. I once tried finishing with an S-grip but that failed.

Has anyone else experienced the same thing, or have a good method for sinking the arm in deep?

[Cookie Monster]

all i know is that your training partners need perfect double under hooks BIG TIME!

i never really go for this move
its awesome i think i should try

[blake jordan]

arent you spose to vice grip not gable grip?

[Jason Hyatt]

Make sure you're dropping your shoulder. If your right arm has the whizzer, drop your right shoulder as far as you can get it to go. That'll give you quite a bit more reach. That seems to be where a lot of the problem is with establishing the vice. At least, that's the aspect I hear coach correcting the most with the vice.

[Cookie Monster]

Make sure you're dropping your shoulder. If your right arm has the whizzer, drop your right shoulder as far as you can get it to go. That'll give you quite a bit more reach. That seems to be where a lot of the problem is with establishing the vice. At least, that's the aspect I hear coach correcting the most with the vice.

gotta write that one down for my self!
thank you!

[Chris Herzog]

Make sure you're dropping your shoulder. If your right arm has the whizzer, drop your right shoulder as far as you can get it to go. That'll give you quite a bit more reach. That seems to be where a lot of the problem is with establishing the vice. At least, that's the aspect I hear coach correcting the most with the vice.

Yep, gotta get that ear to his back and drop that shoulder down.

[Tyler Timmermans]

i like this one

[Muhammad Abdou]

i usually s-grip my hands first and work it into a gable grip.

[Danny Stolfi]

i like this one

I fuggin like that shit.

[Eddie Bravo]

I fuggin like that shit.

That looks beautiful, gotta try it