Randori (Live Sparring) and Patner Drilling

[bobby rivers]

I believe that disciplines with heavy emphasis on this are the key to there effectiveness.

Drilling is also heavily waited for proper tech. Def crucial, but sparring gives timing also f'n crucial.

So my question. Whats the best ratio: more sparring, more drilling, or equal?

Im with equal amounts of each. What y'all think?

[Scott Philips]

I'm also interested in this answer. Lately I'd say I've been hitting about 80 percent sparring and 20 percent drilling. We probably need to drill a little more...

[Justin W.]

oops posted on the wrong thread.

"Sparring is more important to Drilling IMO because if the move works while you're sparring, then you know you're doing it correctly. If you're drilling, you could be doing it incorrectly 1,000x before realizing it's wrong and by then, you already have bad habits (which means that you've actually gotten worse). My ratio would be to drill a little and then test it out in sparring, if it doesn't work, then try to find exactly why it didn't before drilling it again and keep doing that until it works. Personally though, I never drill anything. When the instructor teaches something, I'll do it once and if I get it the first time, I'm done. The way I get my practice, is I first try the move on white belts, if it works, I go up the ladder until it works on a blackbelt, then I find something else to learn. I'm always constantly looking for any bit of detail that will make any of my moves better. I also feel that sparring too much can be a detriment in the process of learning. I always take a day or two off rolling if I feel I'm mentally exhausted or just feel like I'm going through the motions. This keeps my mind fresh and my hunger for learning."

[bobby rivers]

If it doesnt work in sparring maybe you were drilling it wrong. Me, scott, jeff, and gary are all progressing faster than anyone in the area. We are also the only ones that drill 10p regularly.

I kinda realized the answer after thinking and Eddie's already said it. Its reps at all levels of resistance. Consistent reps during live rolling means you can start drilling other holes in your game, but at least you plugged that one.

And I dont see how you'll be able to pull off the the pump to either a toss or swim move to a possible laimon roll without drillin the shit out of that situation. Alot. Thats why good instructors are so good. They've shown the moves every class giving them shit tons of reps. Then you have to roll just as much.

[AJ Camacho]

I usually can't spar 100% for too many days before I injure something, which then sets me into drill mode. Things tend to work themselves out.

[Aab]

i think rolling is 70 percent important with 30 percent drilling. Like if you can just drill enough to get a simple game you can roll and make that simple game better and better and better. Dont have to have a million techniques if you ask me. Alot of people do a lot of different things but not one of them particularly well. I at least want to have a couple things down.

[bobby rivers]

I like a million techniques giving you thousands of options from hundreds of positions. What happens when they shut down your money shit? Gotta try somethin else.

[D.Stachovak]

Maybe I'm wrong,but I say 60% rolling 40% drilling...

[stlnl]

Rolling/sparring is often overemphasized by new people (less than 3 years in) as they dont "develop" as much while rolling. When you are sparring you tend to do the things you already know how to do. Drilling is like study/homework, and rolling more akin to a quiz, you cant take a quiz without drilling can you?

However, more experienced guys can use less experienced guys as a "drill" even while grappling, as they can try out their B and C game stuff on guys much lower skilled than they are to refine it and get the timing down. However, if you are grappling someone who pushes you to the limit of your skills, you wont learn anything new, merely refine what you already knew.

[Andy Lopez]

50/50 for both. though drilling nearly as fun as rolling which is why most people probably roll more. I surprisingly drill a lot more than I roll maybe it will pay off in the long run....