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    Royce should tell Brazilian Cristiano Marcello that he cant develop a system... "The CM System is a martial arts form that utilizes highly developed jiu-jitsu technics specifically for the application into the sport of MMA. Cristiano Marcello created and developed this new concept with his 20 years of experience while at the world famous Chuteboxe Academy in Curitiba, Brazil. CM has helped and perfected the fight game of today’s greatest MMA champions." - Cristiano's website

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    well i just lost some respect for royce

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    honestly speaking, people give too much respect to the gracies and not the japanese

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    Gracie's are a family, Japanese are an entire race lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jason Koh View Post
    honestly speaking, people give too much respect to the gracies and not the japanese
    really people who train BJJ don't give wrestling enough credit

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    I'm talking about Judokas and japanese jiu-jitsu practitioners. They're the ones that started JJ. Idk if this is true or not but I've heard someone say all of Gracie Jiu Jitsu techniques are the same as Japanese JJ and that the Gracie haven't developed anything new.

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    I like potatoes.

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    Kodokan/Kosen Judo=Brazilian Jiu Jitsu you'll never hear a Gracie say that.

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    Some notable quotes from that interview:

    Quote Originally Posted by Renzo

    Let me tell you what the real jiu jitsu is: the real jiu jitsu is the one that doesn’t back away from a challenge. It goes at the obstacle and defends its flag.

    The jiu jitsu was good when nobody else knew any jiu jitsu. Now, everybody knows, so now, only those who are really good shine.
    Funny thing is, he condemns people for "talking shit" about other schools or claiming to be "real" BJJ, but then a little while later he ends up talking shit about other schools and claims to be reall BJJ. Just a note.

    Quote Originally Posted by James Davis View Post
    I went to a couple of gracie spots and mentioned submission wrestling and 10th planet and was told that 10th planet wasn't real BJJ....I'm like, Eddie's a machado black belt..how can it not be real BJJ.
    This is happening and as the popularity of BJJ grows we it is obvious that some have taking to talking shit about others for profit. It's just from my opinion and experience. I will never train at a place that shits on someone else's system or discourages cross training or rolling with other schools.[/QUOTE]

    Pride is a funny thing. I used to see that all the time back in the days when I was into TKD. We would show up to tournaments and place well,but we were hated on because we were a stand-alone, basically rogue club that wasn't affiliated with the popular affiliations.
    The guys from other schools would act as if we were second-hand scum because we were unknown to them, but we always did well because our club used to be combat based TaeKwon Do instead of tournament based.

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