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    The other night a friend of mine and me were working on the 50/50 and talking about the straight ankle lock from there ... If i remember correctly and i may be wrong ( have to double check ) Ryan Hall in his 50/50 dvd said u cant really finish the straight ankle lock from the 50/50 but i get it all the time .. Ive gotten really good with the straight ankle locks because i dont like heel hooking my training partners and the 50/50 is one of my fav positions and hit the straight ankle lock all the time ... So yea most def its awesome from the 50/50 and advise to drill it hard ... The way i do it is a mixture of Reilly Bodycomb's sawing off the foot toes bent deep in the arm pit motion and Aoki's kimura grip deep on the achilles like how be broke Kawajiri's foot... those two combined in one move will most likely get u the tap just dont go too deep on the ankle on your training partners cause u can break the foot or damage tendons pretty easy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonathan Wylie View Post
    Anybody notice where that was filmed at?
    Yeah... bodycomb is buddies with quick. Kinda weird.

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    To me...the key to getting the straight ankle lock is having the toes in my armpit an I can see the top of his foot. This is much different than your standard 'achilles' type ankle lock. This is huge...especially in tourneys. When your oppents adrenaline is running it's extremely hard to get a 'pain' tap...but you get there attention rather quickly when all the little bones in the top of their foot start to break...that will get you the tap!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by VJ Bella View Post
    To me...the key to getting the straight ankle lock is having the toes in my armpit an I can see the top of his foot. This is much different than your standard 'achilles' type ankle lock. This is huge...especially in tourneys. When your oppents adrenaline is running it's extremely hard to get a 'pain' tap...but you get there attention rather quickly when all the little bones in the top of their foot start to break...that will get you the tap!!
    haha you know something about broken little bones in your feet don't you?
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    HAHA...i have a whole new respect for broken bones in the foot now...lmao. I wish i could say it happened in a really cool way like i got ankle locked or someone bit lost control and bit the fucker off and spit it out onto the mat...but alas...it was nothing more than a simple hip escape gone wrong....sigh

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    Quote Originally Posted by MiguelGamezJr View Post
    The other night a friend of mine and me were working on the 50/50 and talking about the straight ankle lock from there ... If i remember correctly and i may be wrong ( have to double check ) Ryan Hall in his 50/50 dvd said u cant really finish the straight ankle lock from the 50/50 but i get it all the time .. Ive gotten really good with the straight ankle locks because i dont like heel hooking my training partners and the 50/50 is one of my fav positions and hit the straight ankle lock all the time ... So yea most def its awesome from the 50/50 and advise to drill it hard ... The way i do it is a mixture of Reilly Bodycomb's sawing off the foot toes bent deep in the arm pit motion and Aoki's kimura grip deep on the achilles like how be broke Kawajiri's foot... those two combined in one move will most likely get u the tap just dont go too deep on the ankle on your training partners cause u can break the foot or damage tendons pretty easy
    Ryan's not so dead-set on that notion anymore. I like the sound of your combo.

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    The Straight Ankle lock actually covers 3 basics submissions if your using the Guillotine Grip (my preferred method) vs the Kimura Grip.
    1)The Calf Crush: the higher up his calf(closer to his knee) with direct pressure on his calf with your radial bone.
    2)The Achilles Crush/Lock: with direct pressure of your radial bone on his Achilles.
    3)The Foot Flex(this is what VJ was referencing): With the toes in your armpit, which can also be modified into the toe hold Reilly is talking about.

    IMHO the limitations with the Kimura grip is your attacking with the flat side of the forearm vs the cutting edge (radial bone) limits you only to the Foot Flex. However yet another grip the "Outside RNC Grip", on the outside of the leg vs the inside, allows yous to use the cutting edge of the arm to get all 3 attacks mentioned above as well. Not my preferred method but some of my long time students like Sarkis like to use that method when the defender is pulling on the arms break the grip.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Herzog View Post
    The Straight Ankle lock actually covers 3 basics submissions if your using the Guillotine Grip (my preferred method) vs the Kimura Grip.
    1)The Calf Crush: the higher up his calf(closer to his knee) with direct pressure on his calf with your radial bone.
    2)The Achilles Crush/Lock: with direct pressure of your radial bone on his Achilles.
    3)The Foot Flex(this is what VJ was referencing): With the toes in your armpit, which can also be modified into the toe hold Reilly is talking about.

    IMHO the limitations with the Kimura grip is your attacking with the flat side of the forearm vs the cutting edge (radial bone) limits you only to the Foot Flex. However yet another grip the "Outside RNC Grip", on the outside of the leg vs the inside, allows yous to use the cutting edge of the arm to get all 3 attacks mentioned above as well. Not my preferred method but some of my long time students like Sarkis like to use that method when the defender is pulling on the arms break the grip.
    I remember you teaching us this.

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    i've had alot of success with ankle lock and toe holds i usually try and dominate the legs completely before i go for the submission just to get better at leg dominance. Leg locks are a whole different world than normal jiu jitsu but it can be alot of fun to add to your game since most people don't train for it, although i use the leg knot for leg dominance more than i do 50/50 although i fall back on 50/50 sometimes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flying_monkey View Post
    i've had alot of success with ankle lock and toe holds i usually try and dominate the legs completely before i go for the submission just to get better at leg dominance. Leg locks are a whole different world than normal jiu jitsu but it can be alot of fun to add to your game since most people don't train for it, although i use the leg knot for leg dominance more than i do 50/50 although i fall back on 50/50 sometimes.
    I teach the single most important component of attacking the legs is establishing positions of control. To many people place emphasis on the submission. The greater the level of control the greater your chances of getting the submission.
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