ADCC North American Trials Scott Epstein vs Bryce Shepard

[Cookie Monster]

take it to court?
lol

sew the ref, sew the orangization for hiring that ref, sew the venue for allowing that event to take place
sew the city for allowing the venue for being there sew the state for having all that non sense
and after that open your own affiliate! :-P

next year!!!!

[Cookie Monster]

oh shit i spelt it wrong
lol

*sue

HA!

[Louis Ho]

I'm not saying this cuz I know Scott or anything like that. But Scott showed that he was WAY better than that guy throughout the match. Congratulations Scott. You beat him.

[Mike Nall]

I normally wouldn't complain in public, but that match was ridiculous.

4 major mistakes by the referee which resulted in the loss in my opinion:

1) Three minutes in, when the points period started, the referee for some strange reason slapped Scott hard on the back instead of verbally saying "points" which is the standard in every other adcc match i've ever seen. Everyone knows that when the ref touches you you're supposed to freeze (as a precursor to moving the action back to the center of the mat) and of course Scott was super confused and let go of a vice grip which is his game.

2) You are not supposed to be allowed to run off the mat to escape a submission which the guy clearly did.

3) Once off the mat (and he was on the carpet), once the submission is let go, the action should have been stopped.

4) Let's say as a ref you missed the issues raised above in point 2 and 3, then how in the world do you let a guy go from the carpet to a mount where Scott clearly stopped rolling as the action should be done. And if you somehow let him keep going, how do you give him mount points at that time and restart? Meaning, if somehow you think the action should keep going despite the guy being completely out of bounds (to avoid the submission), then once he gets back in bounds, why stop at mount? If that's suddenly a viable mount (and it wasn't as you can see on the video) and they're back in bounds, why stop it? Because the ref was confused and slow and doesn't know what to do at that point.

I know in grappling tournaments you never know what to expect with the officials (btw, they were fine in my matches this tournament), but this one was blatantly ridiculous.

Cosign. ADCC refs really don't know how to handle when someone rolls out of bounds to escape a submission. They fuck that one up all the time. The back slap was crazy weird.

[Jared Gammel]

Really? What makes you think that?

Horrible grappling officiating happens all the time, all over the country. I didn't see anything in this that for one second made me think there was blatant 10th planet bias going on.

[Jesse Bell]

I'm so fuckin mad right now. I already have an issue with Grappling Refs and Rules, but that was absurd. How is it even possible to get robbed that clearly in front of that many people and nothing is resolved. I would flip my shit. Fuck ADCC.

[Ron Almeida]

submission only solves the problem, all submissions legal with double elimination or round robin format

[Ramone (RAM) Codrington]

that was bulshit.

[VJ Bella]

wow...that was a rob job for real. I mean that was just domination by scott. unfortunately we are seeing unqualified refs this more and more as jitz gets more popular. you'd think they would at least have qualified guys at ADCC though....

[Louis Ho]

Like Jesse Bell, I would also flip my shit. Einstein fought a beautiful match. He had a lot of stuff going on, takedowns, control, very good sub attempts. He obviously came prepared. Btw, the other dude looked pretty big.