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    Quote Originally Posted by Nathan "Máquina" View Post
    I normally wouldn't complain in public, but that match was ridiculous.

    4 major mistakes by the referee which resulted in the loss in my opinion:

    1) Three minutes in, when the points period started, the referee for some strange reason slapped Scott hard on the back instead of verbally saying "points" which is the standard in every other adcc match i've ever seen. Everyone knows that when the ref touches you you're supposed to freeze (as a precursor to moving the action back to the center of the mat) and of course Scott was super confused and let go of a vice grip which is his game.

    2) You are not supposed to be allowed to run off the mat to escape a submission which the guy clearly did.

    3) Once off the mat (and he was on the carpet), once the submission is let go, the action should have been stopped.

    4) Let's say as a ref you missed the issues raised above in point 2 and 3, then how in the world do you let a guy go from the carpet to a mount where Scott clearly stopped rolling as the action should be done. And if you somehow let him keep going, how do you give him mount points at that time and restart? Meaning, if somehow you think the action should keep going despite the guy being completely out of bounds (to avoid the submission), then once he gets back in bounds, why stop at mount? If that's suddenly a viable mount (and it wasn't as you can see on the video) and they're back in bounds, why stop it? Because the ref was confused and slow and doesn't know what to do at that point.

    I know in grappling tournaments you never know what to expect with the officials (btw, they were fine in my matches this tournament), but this one was blatantly ridiculous.
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    Yeah that was rape for sure, and garbage. Scott dominated that whole match, this is like one of the classic UFC shit decisions.

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    HE gott robbed. He dominated that guy.

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    einstein has had a rough go from the refs in his career. i have seen him get hosed in several videos.

    you clearly won that match.
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    i am no ref, but it seemed to me that when the ref slapped einstein on the back, he was really slapping the hand of the opponent for grabbing einsteins shorts or rash guard. right before that happened the ref warned the other guy to let go of the shorts. thats just what i saw. the restart was the worst.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nathan "Máquina" View Post
    I normally wouldn't complain in public, but that match was ridiculous.

    4 major mistakes by the referee which resulted in the loss in my opinion:

    1) Three minutes in, when the points period started, the referee for some strange reason slapped Scott hard on the back instead of verbally saying "points" which is the standard in every other adcc match i've ever seen. Everyone knows that when the ref touches you you're supposed to freeze (as a precursor to moving the action back to the center of the mat) and of course Scott was super confused and let go of a vice grip which is his game.

    2) You are not supposed to be allowed to run off the mat to escape a submission which the guy clearly did.

    3) Once off the mat (and he was on the carpet), once the submission is let go, the action should have been stopped.

    4) Let's say as a ref you missed the issues raised above in point 2 and 3, then how in the world do you let a guy go from the carpet to a mount where Scott clearly stopped rolling as the action should be done. And if you somehow let him keep going, how do you give him mount points at that time and restart? Meaning, if somehow you think the action should keep going despite the guy being completely out of bounds (to avoid the submission), then once he gets back in bounds, why stop at mount? If that's suddenly a viable mount (and it wasn't as you can see on the video) and they're back in bounds, why stop it? Because the ref was confused and slow and doesn't know what to do at that point.

    I know in grappling tournaments you never know what to expect with the officials (btw, they were fine in my matches this tournament), but this one was blatantly ridiculous.
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    An absolute fucking disgrace. I would bet any money that bullshit ref has a blatent bias against 10th planet. Unbelievible.

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    Whats also sad is that 2 people had to yell at the refree and than Scott had to turn back and ask him if he got the points for the initial take down. How do these people get licensed?

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    I would have been out on that mat demanding an eplanation.
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